Please forgive me for asking you for clarification.  You state that there is a 
holding tank @60 to 70C from which the water is drawn.  Is this tank open to 
the atmosphere or is the system closed?

Also, do you know where the flow meter is located relative to this tank?  Is it 
lower than the tank and located ahead of the pump?  Do you have a reference 
drawing that shows the system layout?

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: a.ashfield <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Aug 9, 2016 10:17 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Problems with Rossi's flow meter described in court document


    Jed,
    There are several reasons why Penon might have declined to answer    Murray.
    Your theory that the flow meter was reading significantly high has    been 
shot down.
    As the flow rate was controlled downstream of the meter, one would    
expect it not to vary much.
    Exhibit 5 has errors as pointed out earlier.
    If the customer had a strongly endothermic process you would not get    1 
MW released into the building
    I don't know who is telling the truth, but is not yet proven that IH    is.
    
    The theory (not yours) earlier about vapor in the line effecting the    
flow meter neglects that the return from the customer is into a    holding tank 
@ 60 - 70C.  Water drawn from that would not have free    vapor. 
    
    
    
On 8/9/2016 9:38 AM, Jed Rothwell      wrote:
    
    
      
        
          
David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:
          

            
I would hope that                  you could be convinced that Rossi is telling 
the truth                  if he were to present a solid scientific proof to 
that                  fact.  Is that not giving him the benefit of the          
        doubt?  Can anyone be 100% confident that he is                  
completely lying?
                
            

            
            
Yes, I am 100% confident he is lying. Take Exhibit 5.              If Rossi or 
Penon had legitimate answers to the issues              raised in that 
document, they would have answered them.              They had a contractual 
obligation to answer, and it would              have been in their interests to 
do so. They did not              respond at all. That tells me they have no 
answers and the              damning assertions made in that document are 
correct. I              have other proof of that. Independent observers told me 
             these assertions are correct.
            

            
            
              
I am also certain there was not 1 MW of waste heat                coming out of 
the customer site.
              

              
            
            
I have seen Penon's data, and I confirm it has 36,000              kg in every 
day, for weeks. As I explained here, that is              impossible. If you 
reset the counter to zero every day it              might go past 36,000 every 
day, for example, to 36,410,              36,228, etc., and with this meter 
that would show up as              36,000 every day. Except when daylight 
savings changes.              But that is not what happened.
            

            
            
32,000 may be a reasonable approximation of what the              meter showed, 
but it is definitely made-up data that was              stuffed into the tables.
            

            
            
- Jed
            
            

            
          
        
      
    
    
  

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