I agree with much you say Axil. As usual you put important things together and 
when I think about what you say I see you put a lot of consideration into your 
ideas. 
With the moon however I'm more wondering about a surface effect.

On a separate point that maybe you could answer: Regarding HRM, UDH or UHH 
would you by chance have some idea what the electron density or associated 
electron plasma frequency would by in these materials? Perhaps it is more 
complex if we consider Surface or Bulk Plasmons? or in particular SPP?
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 11:39:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Lunar LENR?
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

Unless science understands how LENR produces heat inside planets, they will be 
faced with mounting numbers of unsolvable cosmological conundrums. Scientists 
shocked to find Mercury has liquid metal core and a magnetic field like 
EarthMAY 13, 2015 BY DAN TAYLORScientists shocked to find Mercury has liquid 
metal core and a magnetic field like EarthNASA's MESSENGER spacecraft smashed 
into the planet's surface on April 30after four years in orbit, but not before 
sending back some amazing data.Scientists were floored recently after getting 
back data from NASA’s MESSENGER space probe that showed that Mercury has a core 
filled with sloshing liquid metal, much like Earth — and they’re scratching 
their heads as to how that’s possible.Mercury had been thought to be too small 
to have a liquid core, as scientists believed the metal would have cooled 
relatively quickly in its history, but the MESSENGER space probe sent back data 
before slamming into the planet onApril 30 that indicated that yes, its core 
still contains molten metal, and that metal is creating a magnetic field 
similar to that of Earth, according to a Space.com report.It’s nowhere near as 
powerful — scientists estimate that it is 100 times weaker than Earth’s. But 
the findings still surprised scientists who thought they would find a solid 
rock core much like the other rocky planets in our solar system. The findings 
shed new light on the evolution of Mercury, the closest planet to the sun and 
the smallest planet in the solar system, and will force scientists to rethink 
how it developed.The five factors that might contribute to the formation of 
hydrogen Rydberg matter (HRM) are as follows: Electropositive catalytic 
activity (i.e. lithium, potassium, calcium oxide, rare earth oxides), The low 
work function of this material seems to be important in HRM catalytic activity. 
This includes graphite (arxiv.org/pdf/1501.05056v1.pdf) In the Lugano report, 
there was a coating of rare earths on the nickel fuel particles. This might be 
related to reducing the work functions of the nickel particles as a result of 
rare earth oxides in the fuel. High pressure produced by flaws in the crystal 
structure of metal (i.e. nickel)Electrostatic field produced by pointy 
nanostructures. Hexagonal crystal structure that provides a quantum mechanical 
template for HRM formation. A long timeframe – this speaks to the fact that HRM 
is driven by probability causation similar to radioactive decay. Once HRM is 
formed, it remains active for a long time if it is kept inside the reactor core 
using containment of a magnetic material.andIf you take a look at the latest 
data from the Pluto flyby, you can see another cosmologic mystery rear its head 
that can be well explained by metalized hydrogen as a LENR heat 
source.sciencemag.org/news/2015/07/pluto-alive-where-heat-comingPluto is 
alive—but where is the heat coming from? 
space.com/29968-pluto-charon-photos-active-icy-worlds.htmlNew Photos of Pluto 
and Moon Surprise, Puzzle ScientistsThere is a tremendous amount of heat coming 
from the interior of Pluto and its small satellite; so much so, that the 
surface of Pluto is resurfaced by the eruption of ice from the interior of 
Pluto. Also there is a constant replenishment of the nitrogen atmosphere of 
Pluto from the interior.The standard causes given for planetary heat production 
does not apply, that being heat from the sun, radioactive decay, and friction 
caused by tidal stretching. Furthermore, there is evidence that other smaller 
free standing bodies in the Kuiper belt sometimes called the Edgeworth–Kuiper 
belt, are at the far edge of the solar system are producing their own internal 
heat.Although to date most KBOs still appear spectrally featureless due to 
their faintness, there have been a number of successes in determining their 
composition. In 1996, Robert H. Brown et al. obtained spectroscopic data on the 
KBO 1993 SC, revealing its surface composition to be markedly similar to that 
of Pluto, as well as Neptune's moon Triton, possessing large amounts of methane 
ice. Water ice has been detected in several the Kuiper belt objects (KBO)s, 
including 1996 TO66, 38628 Huya and 20000 Varuna. In 2004, Mike Brown et al. 
determined the existence of crystalline water ice and ammonia hydrateon one of 
the largest known KBOs, 50000 Quaoar. Both of these substances would have been 
destroyed over the age of the Solar System, suggesting that Quaoar had been 
recently resurfaced, either by unexplained internal tectonic activity or by 
meteorite impacts.In my opinion, LENR based on metallized hydrogen is a 
possible answer to these strange cosmological conundrums. I agree with Ed 
Storms that the many experiments in LENR show that this strange process is 
basically produced among other things by imperfections in the lattice structure 
of transition metals: cracks as Ed terms these imperfections. Ed Storms is 
postulating that a new form of hydrogen is central to the LENR process. I 
suspect that this is correct.The way this newly recognized type of hydrogen is 
produced is through the application of high pressure. Hydrogen has a complex 
state diagram that shows how hydrogen can evolve from a dielectric gas into a 
metal through the application of high temperature and/or pressure. More 
broadly, I suspect that there is a yet undiscovered mode of chemistry that 
exists at high pressure which produces LENR active chemical compounds.The 
pressure exerted by the chemical bonds surrounding the voids in the lattice 
structure of transition metals could become high enough to produce high 
pressure formed chemical compounds that demonstrate the LENR effect. Other 
quantum mechanical based mechanisms add to this probability that high pressure 
LENR compounds will form. One such added pressure amplification cause is a 
pressure shock as suggested is required by Piantelli.In a completely 
independent line of evidence, one indication that high pressure chemistry is 
active as a source of heat is the evidence of the completion of a number of 
NASA planetary mission probes that has shown unexplained heat sources in the 
cores of celestial bodies of sufficient mass to produce high pressure chemistry 
at the centers of these objects. These include the Moon, Mercury, Pluto, Ceres, 
and various other less massive bodies in both the Kuiper belt and asteroid 
belts. Such chemistry might even be at work within the Sun as indicated by the 
new solar probes fielded by NASA.In addition, evidence derived from the high 
pressure conditions produced by collapsing cavitation bubbles indicate that 
other high pressure chemical compounds besides hydrogen might also produce LENR 
effects. These compounds include but not limited to water, liquid metals, and 
molten salts. There is also a theory that high pressure chemistry might be the 
basis of the effects expected by dark matter. Holmlid, Mills, and Shoulders 
have speculated that the chemical compounds produced by high pressure/EMF are 
dark matter. The characteristics of these compounds indicated that they absorb 
EMF energy in a dark mode and gain mass/energy through the absorption of 
catalyzed nuclear binding energy to form WIMPS (in particle physics and 
astrophysics, weakly interacting massive particles are among the last 
hypothetical particle physics candidates for dark matter) These particles 
convert catalyzed energy derive from nuclear binding energy into thermal energy 
through quantum mechanical means. These particles in their natural state have 
not yet been detected as dark matter because they are only produced by the high 
pressure conditions inside large celestial objects and exist in a metastable 
condition. Because these particles are metastable, these exotic neutral 
particles (ENP) will decay in time if their stores of energy are not 
replenished in an ongoing process.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Stephen Cooke <[email protected]> 
wrote:



OK OK… I know this thought and question way way out there... and probably puts 
me in the lunatic fringe… I Apolo-gise for that ;) Sorry couldn't resist.
I wonder if there is evidence of LENR on the moon or LUNAR LENR?
The moon is:
1. In vacuum 2. Has had many thermal cycles (quite long though ~ about 1 month) 
for billions of years.3. Is constantly undergoing ion bombardment from the 
solar wind etc.4. Is covered in Moon dust that may have characteristics similar 
to nano particles 5. Contains elements and minerals that may be implicated in 
LENR.
Could it be that the surface layer contains modified isotope ratios that could 
be accounted for by LENR? 
I imagine these kind of isotope analysis of LUNAR material have been widely 
done but I'm not sure if any Isotope ratios different than those on earth have 
been identified. If they have perhaps they have been attributed to outgassing 
of lighter nuclei etc.
I suppose to be sure it would make sense to compare with sources below the 
surface, perhaps drilled samples. Didn't the recent "Jade Rabbit" rover from 
china make drilled samples? I wonder what it showed up.
Have X-ray emissions been detected from the moon?





 




                                          

                                          

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