Holmlid says that mesons are created in addition to muons. If that is the
case, rydberg matter has the ability to produce strong force effects since
the meson is made of a quark and its anti-quark partner. At least one quark
can be produced from the vacuum if enough energy is pumped into it.

I say that this strong force reaction arises from strong magnetism.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]>
wrote:

> My understanding is that quarks don't weigh enough to constituted of
> muons.  While we hear of protons and neutrons being described as an
> assemblage of 3 quarks, they are talking about the valence quarks, and
> there are many more quark-antiquark pairs that constitute the whole mass of
> the proton or neutron.  Because of this, quarks would have to be an
> assemblage of something smaller - epos for example.
>
> Do I have it right?
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mark
>>
>> This could be a further indication of some kind of cross-identity. Of
>> course, when an electron is emitted from a neutron beta decay - there are
>> those who strongly believe that it arose ab initio -- and was never a part
>> of the 3 quark arrangement.
>>
>> Thus - it is both an open question and a semantic issue about the meaning
>> attached to the consistent appearance of muons following a proton
>> disintegration.
>>
>> BTW - there is a small minority who affirm that the quark is little more
>> than a fiction, a place-holder. That is, it is a fiction in the sense that
>> it was invented to have properties that do show up in high energy events,
>> but it is has no independent identity of its own. In short, a quark could,
>> at some future point in time, be redefined as a "bound triad of muons", and
>> there is some evidence for that description now (and some against).
>> Statistically, the quark is composed of a triad --- three of something.
>>
>> Even the neutrino, another "invented particle" has been shown to have a
>> real identity, having once served the same purpose, which is as
>> place-holder, in the past. Not the quark.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Jurich
>>
>> ... And here's a ZZ --> 4 Muons CMS [Candidate] Event:
>>
>> https://cds.cern.ch/record/1378103?ln=en
>>
>> http://www.atlas.ch/multimedia/4-muon-event.html
>>
>> Here's a movie of a Proton-Proton Collision Event, eventually resulting
>> in 4 Muons (Actual Event, but the movie is a simulation, of course) seen in
>> the ATLAS Detector.  Unfortunately I could not easily find one with CMS.
>> Perhaps someone will and all the future Hate Mail will stop!
>>
>> Mark Jurich
>>
>>
>>
>

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