Philippi Hatt’s model may allow the calculation of the energy releases form 
LENR reactions with enough accuracy to confirm theory with existing EM 
monitoring capability.  Expensive particle detection is probably not required 
IMHO.  

Since local B fields may cause modification of the predicted EM releases during 
LENR, it is more important to determine those B fields than particle detection 
in very short intervals, essentially virtual particle time frames.  

Such monitoring may involve monitoring resonant frequencies associated with 
known nuclear magnetic resonances of trace nuclear species specifically 
introduced into the fuel to provide the desired “monitoring beacons”.  

The instrument specialists like National Instruments should take note.  

Bob Cook

From: Axil Axil 
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:40 AM
To: vortex-l 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A model of the proton to describe Holmlid's results

Holmlid also states that many other types of sub atomic particles are produced. 
Mesons of various types and pions are mentioned. The muon is a decay product of 
mesons. It is unclear what is initially produced and what is a decay product. 
The higher energy particles have a very short lifetime compared to the muon so 
the muons will appear more prominently in low resolution detection methods. It 
will take expensive particle detection and identification equipment to resolve 
what rydberg matter is generating. That equipment will not be available until 
LENR gains full credibility in particle physics. This might take some time.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

  A provocative model of the proton has appeared on the web this year which can 
help explain the surprising results of Leif Holmlid. It comes from a retired 
nuclear engineer – Bill Stubbs. Stubbs also has an older book available on 
Amazon called “Nuclear Alternative”.


  Here is the gist of it (paraphrased to account for Holmlid): 

  The proton is composed of nine similar particles whose mass is each about 1⁄9 
that of a proton - there are three groupings of three. Those particles are 
identified as the muon/antimuon. The muon and the antimuon have unit negative 
and positive charge, respectively so that there is a net positive charge of 1. 
The combined mass of nine muons is 1,863 electron masses which is 27 electron 
masses greater than the proton's mass of 1,836 -- but since the interaction is 
“binding” in the technical sense, a mass defect similar to that seen in all 
nuclear binding will reduce the net mass of bound muons to what is 204 
equivalent electron masses, and they cannot annihilate in bound form. The 
common name for the high energy version of proton disintegration is “quark 
soup” but the muon will be by far the longest lived component of a  low energy 
version (Holmlid’s version). Thus quarks are really muons which is a radical 
departure from present models.


  Unfortunately, the reflexive comment from the physics establishment will be 
to label this as a crank notion. Maybe it is. Were it not for Holmlid’s 
results, meshing directly into the detail of the Stubbs model, it will probably 
end at that, instead of gaining traction. But given that Holmlid could be 
proved correct, and very soon, it is wise to keep an open mind until you read 
what Stubbs has to say, in the context of Holmlid. In short, there is little 
experimental evidence to validate the Stubbs model, outside of Holmlid’s work – 
but it appears to me that both of them together form a very compelling argument 
to explain LENR (or one version of it) with the apparent production of muons in 
situ.

  http://wlsprojects.com/seeing-inside-a-proton.html

  http://wlsprojects.com/particles-inside-a-proton.html

  http://wlsprojects.com/structure-inside-proton.html


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