Mark-- Thanks for the added research. The link I gave was a review article, not the actual paper.
By the date on the paper it seems the discovery and research is old stuff. However, the result may be very important in understanding the spin coupling in coherent systems. I am surprised that it has not been discussed here on Vortex in the past. The research may have been kept in the dark by NAS. It would not surprise me. I wonder what Jones and Axil have to say about its lack of publicity? The statement in the paper about being able to design the superatoms with specific resonances pertinent to spin coupling and the allowed higher (than one spin quanta) spin states (greater spin energy) is exciting IMHO. It suggests energy transitions akin to NMR manipulation in nuclei, involving “weak force” interactions and mass transitions that may explain the LENR e nergy source. It may be that Rossi has created superatoms with Ni and K or other light metals—Al or Li for example—with substantial high temperature stability and capability to handle substantial mass-to-phonic energy transitions. Using Niobium-Iridium as a thermoelectric couple for direct electrical energy production would make good sense given its high temperature tolerance. NASA would be happy as well as the rest of civilization. Other high temperature couples or schemes for generating voltage at high temperatures that are cheaper should be developed sought IMHO. (Good NAS research subject.) Bob Cook From: Mark Jurich Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR question (one) and info- for Aug. 17, 2015 FYI: Not sure where the included paper is, but I believe this is it: http://www.pnas.org/content/108/25/10062.full.pdf?with-ds=yes [1] [1] http://www.pnas.org/content/108/25/10062.full Mark Jurich From: Bob Cook Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Vo]:Re: LENR question (one) and info- for Aug. 17, 2015 The link below includes a paper regarding superatoms of Fe and 8 Mg atoms. It acts magnetically like Fe but has an electronic structure that can have various spin states of electrons spaced throughout the superatom’s electronic structure. Such A feature may allow spin coupling with nuclear spin states in resonant RF conditions and a B field. http://www.news.vcu.edu/article/Researchers_Discover_Superatoms_with_Magnetic_Shells Bob Cook From: Jones Beene Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 7:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: LENR question (one) and info- for Aug. 17, 2015 Bob - There are some exceptional recent papers on superatomic nickel as a molecular catalyst. It could be a huge breakthrough in LENR if there is a cross-connection to its catalytic properties and its ability to densify hydrogen. The structure is intriguing in the context of fractional hydrogen, since both Ni and O are Mills catalysts, but – in contrast to normal nickel oxides, there could be a major advantage in the superatomic spacing which is completely different from the natural oxides. Surprisingly (since nickel is hexavalent) there are only two main natural varieties of nickel oxide: Nickel(II) oxide, NiO, green in color and Nickel(III) oxide, Ni2O3, which is black. Nickel Dioxide, NiO2 is rarer in nature as is the tetroxide NiO4. Nickelo-nickelic Oxide is the chemical name of Ni3O4. I am wondering if one could take Ni2O3 along with nickel powder and grind in high speed ball mill for an extended time to arrive at a decent percentage of the superatomic version? From: Bob Cook The superatoms of Ni and O may many have inner shell electrons that are captured more easily (electron capture) than happens with regular Ni atoms. It would be nice to know, if the superatoms that are like Pd have the same ability to absorb H or D and to confine them in a lattice structure better suited to a fusion or other nuclear reaction involving mass energy transition to phonic energy. I wonder what the magnetic properties of the superatoms are? Bob Cook From: Bob Cook Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 5:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Vo]:Re: LENR question (one) and info- for Aug. 17, 2015 Hafnium is refined with Zr from ocean sands, I think. It has been used as reactor control rod with a large cross section for neutrons. I do not think it is too expensive. Bob ook From: Jones Beene Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Vo]:LENR question (one) and info- for Aug. 17, 2015 It wasn’t mentioned, but recently Rossi has been claiming to see anomalous heat from nickel - at higher temperature than the melting point of nickel – say in the range of 1500 C. If this is found to be true, then it could be evidence of superatomic nickel, which has the formula of Ni2O2 – as opposed to NiO or NiO2. Rossi may have formed superatomic nickel inadvertently, since he does not mention that this was deliberate. In fact he doesn’t mention superatomic at all. Nickel powder is known to oxidize in contact with alumina, so in addition to some of it melting at 1500C, some of it would oxidize. The superatom thus could from in situ. The reason for the superatom formula being Ni2O2 instead of NiO is in the Wiki entry. And it is worth noting that the normal oxide of nickel has a melting point which is a whopping 500 degrees C higher than the metal, so this fits the circumstances. BTW – the Russians are laying claim to the nickel superatom, as well (not sure if Peter mentioned this): http://www.ibtimes.com.au/russian-scientists-discover-new-kind-superatomic-nickel-1450987 I cannot find a reference for the m.p. of the nickel superatom, but it is probably in the range of 2000C like the other oxides – so yes, Rossi could be right for the wrong reason… in that he thinks the catalyst is still only nickel which has melted - when instead the active part is the nickel superatom Ni2O2 which by the way, mimics hafnium. Hafnium has been called a “supercatalyst” but is toxic and extremely expensive. It is mentioned in several LENR patents including that of the German mystery company PURRATIO AG. From: Axil Axil Why do these compounds work as a LENR catalysts? http://www.pnnl.gov/science/highlights/highlight.asp?id=803 Superatoms are clusters of atoms that mimic elements through isoelectric configurations of their valence electrons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superatom Element replacements Titanium monoxide (TiO) => nickel Zirconium oxide (ZrO) => palladium Tungsten carbide(WC) => Platinum On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> wrote: Week starts, things happen or become known- the rest is communication. This is it: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/08/just-aa-burning-question-and-some-info.html Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
