Re: Nicholas Moller on Langmuir

[Jones Beene]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry Blanton"

Well, it is the "c/C" error in the original article ... if we 
are
on the same page.

"From Langmuir's experiments and findings we know that the 
minimum calorific value for the recombination of atoms was 
agreed to be in the region 90.000 cal/gram molecule.  In other 
words we have an input energy of 103 cal/gram molecule and an 
output energy of 90.000 cal/gram molecule."

So, if I understand you correctly, you are saying one of these 
numbers is in nutritional Calories and the other in thermal 
calories?  If so, this process is not ou (or the numbers are 
off).

Yes. The sequential process of dissociation/recombination in a 
plasma or gas is not OU. Too bad that error keeps getting 
repeated.

Away from any metal surface, the dissociation energy (H2 -> 2H = 
435.99 kJ·mol-1) = ~104 kcal/gm-mol.

However, the same does not apply to catalytic dissociation on a 
metal surface, which would be where the OU would be found IF it 
exists in the simple situation... but the recombination is also 
less, therefore, this is another or the reasons why I do not think 
that "atomic hydrogen" is the modus operandi for any excess energy 
which is found in the MAHG.

I am looking for an authoritative source on this, as I am no 
expert, but if you find it first, please post.

Jones