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From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: More MAHG


> Good news on the OU front...
>
> The Moller Atomic Hydrogen Generator (MAHG), mentioned several
> times in the past,  is based on the Irving Langmuir Torch, which
> may have been the very first documented OU device, despite
> Langmuir's later 'pathological,' and most regrettable doubletalk.
>
> In the MAHG, hydrogen is dissociated at low voltage electrically
> and recombined at overunity thermally. An important but
> controversial finding - here by Naudin and by several others, is a
> robust COP... now over 2.5 at decent  500 watt power gain -
> consequently, this is looking good for immediate commercial
> development - plus the H2 is not consumed but can be recycled over
> and over again without consuming much more hydrogen than the
> quantity used to start with.
>
> The mechanism is probably related to the hydrino, but not only
> precedes BLP but perhaps supercedes the hydrino work, as well. The
> Mills' experimental phenomena may be a subset of this or vice
> versa, who knows. The Moller cathode is typically tungsten, not a
> typical Mills' catalyst, although as stated before, Mills is now
> trying to claim about half the periodic table. Here is the new
> tests on the JLN site:
> http://jlnlabs.imars.com/mahg/tests/index.htm
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Very, very interesting. Naudin is doing his usual good work. Hydrinophiles
need to note the H+2H catalysis reaction which Phillips discusses in his
recent paper. Two hydrogen atoms can catalyze a third to produce H(1/2), and
initiate further cascades of BLP reactions, as Phillips notes. The thermal
dissociation of H2 by hot tungsten is also used int he BLP thermal reactor
featured on the "Cell" page of the website. The pressure in Naudin's cell is
relatively high [0.1 atmosphere], no flow, so there's lots of hydrogen
around to react.

Hydrinophobes note: this may be a truly "independant" confirmation of BLP
reactions. What would be the clincher is a window into the reaction chamber
and spectroscopic analysis of the plasma there. Ironic that it may come from
derivatily from Langmuir of 'pathological science' fame.

Mike Carrell

Mike Carrell



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