Prometheus Effect wrote:

Guys,

I would like to enlist the aid of some of the members
of the OU / Free Energy community to independently
verify the **virtually** no magnetic dragback

Emphasis added.

Our daily mundane experience is almost entirely limited to processes in which friction and other losses play a large role. Aristotle, IIRC, asserted that objects acted on by no force tend to _stop_, and for an awfully long time everyone agreed with that, because it's exactly what we normally observe.

On the other hand, weak static magnetic fields acting on slow-moving ferromagnetic objects are practically lossless (if we ignore eddy currents which are very small in such circumstances, but which provide something like viscous damping). Steel balls on metal tracks can role with (almost) no friction, in practical terms. The combination can appear quite startling to the eye of one not used to observing conservation of energy in action.

Given an aparatus made of hard dense objects rolling with almost no friction, combined with the action of magnetic fields, it's very easy to fool yourself into thinking there's a source of energy someplace.

That "VIRTUALLY no dragback" phrase up there says it all: You've got an entrance path with a high potential energy gradient and consequently large (macroscopic) magnetic force, and an exit path with a small potential energy gradient and consequently small magnetic force. But the force is _not_ ZERO on the exit path; you said so yourself! It's just _smaller_ than the entrance force. But your exit path is longer than your entrance path, isn't it? Consequently the magnitude of the product of the force times the distance is actually the same on the two paths.

CLOSE THE LOOP and you've proved this is wrong. Close the loop, and you've got something you can show to anyone to prove your case; you'll get your name in the paper and you'll get a Nobel prize and it doesn't matter how much energy you get out, just so long as it's positive. If you can't close the loop -- and your email makes it obvious that you can't -- then this is a load of c**p and there's no point in anyone wasting any additional time or money on attempting to "verify" it.



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