K,

> ICE : 6 dollars, 3 gallons, 85.5 Kbtu available energy.
> ELECTRIC : 6 dollars, 35 kwh, 128 Kbtu available energy

But this is basing gasoline at $2/gallon when it is already
much closer to $3 in many places ($2.65 here) and I was
basing my comparison on using $3 per gallon, which obviously
makes it look far more advantageous to use electric.

Do you think the price of gasoline will drop, rather than
rise? It seem pretty certain to me that it will get to $3
just in time for the summer driving season, but who knows?.

> So it is somewhat advantageous to plug in the car now,
more so if you are city driving and can keep the electric
motor in gear most of the time. My point was that if you
kept the car below 25mpg....

In the Times article they are not staying below 25 mph, but
adding more/better batteries and hacking the control system.
If you get twice the bang-for-the buck using electricity
from the grid, then every one is better off ... excepting
OPEC and the "seven sisters", that is ;-)

Does this mean that you are taking the "Daily News" instead
of the Times?

And as Horace mentioned there does seem to be an added
synergy in adding solar panels to the roof. Keeping the
batteries topped off with solar extends their life, means
fewer batteries needed for an average trip, and there is
also some evidence of an anomaly previously mentioned, about
the high frequency trickle charge - so perhaps even when
driving, if you can add a reverse HF trickle charge back to
the battery from solar, this could be advantageous but that
could be only for lead-acid "desulferization", or whatever
they call it.

All and all, with the new battery technology coming in as
well, this is pretty exciting stuff. I see some real
indications of seemingly unrelated things coming together on
top of the Prius theme, giving us the possibility (in the
near term) for an "emergent" automotive drive system, not
requiring hydrogen, which can have a big impact on extending
oil supplies and curtailing the price increase - maybe even
reverse the price of oil.

For instance, I would not want to be an investor in fuel
cells, given what might be happening now with hybrid
systems, as fuel cells demand a much greater change to the
infrastructure.

Jones



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