The NRUF is for forecasting the demand for 1K and 10K NXX blocks, so the
original carrier is the one that reports on the usage (anything ported
out is considered assigned). It tells NANPA when they can anticipate
having to do an overlay or add a new area code.
As I mentioned, it would make sense for the RND database to track ported
numbers because they often get lost when the customer disconnects.
However, my understanding of the purpose of the RND database is to
protect marketing companies from being fined when they call a number
that is no longer on the "do not call list" because it changed owners.
NPAC produces reports for various purposes, but in this instance, it's
just the system used to release ported TNs.
MARY LOU CAREY
BackUP Telecom Consulting
Office: 615-791-9969
Cell: 615-796-1111
On 2024-01-24 01:06 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Well, yes, separate, but it isn't the most intuitive thing (at least
to newbies) that you report a number you don't have as assigned in
NRUF. Of the available options it makes the most sense, but I'm
surprised they don't have a ported out category.
-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
-------------------------
From: "Mary Lou Carey" <[email protected]>
To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 12:37:25 PM
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] NRUF 502
The NRUF only pertains to BLOCKS assigned to your OCN. Returning
blocks
in NPAC only pertains to TNs you've ported to your LRN that you no
longer use. You mixed up the third component of reporting disconnects.
That's done in the RND database and those should be reported monthly.
All 3 are totally separate from each other and used for different
purposes.
- NRUF it to report number utilization and forecasting of NXX blocks
- NPAC is the database used for porting telephone numbers
-RND is used for reporting numbers that are disconnected. In my
opinion,
if the numbering administration was smart they would track the ported
TNs no longer in use in the RND database so the original carrier can
reclaim the numbers that are no longer being used because a lot of TNs
get lost when the customer disconnects but they are not returned to
the
original carrier.
MARY LOU CAREY
BackUP Telecom Consulting
Office: 615-791-9969
Cell: 615-796-1111
On 2024-01-22 06:11 PM, Mike Hammett via VoiceOps wrote:
I'm just learning about NRUF 502.
As I read the documentation (and some Googling):
Every phone number in the blocks I have are either Assigned,
Intermediate, Reserved, Aging, or Administrative.
Ported out numbers count as assigned.
Returned ported numbers are available.
I do this for blocks that I got from NANPA.
I do not do it for ported numbers.
I'm supposed to be able to tell in Neustar SOA what numbers have
disconnected. I've reached out to them to figure out how to do that.
I
couldn't find documentation that was direct enough for me to know it
was the right thing.
-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com
_______________________________________________
VoiceOps mailing list
[email protected]
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
_______________________________________________
VoiceOps mailing list
[email protected]
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
