It is, and there's a family of youtube streamers out there who make a living doing it (Pierogi at Scammer Payback for example).
One of those interesting instances where laws differ between countries. On Sep 20, 2023, at 1:04 PM, Carlos Alvarez via VoiceOps <[email protected]> wrote: List messages often arrive out of order for me, and I think that happened here. I may have been misquoting. But yeah, I’ve never heard of a law against sharing lawful recordings. I think it should be legal for me to publicize recordings of me harassing scammers, right? On Sep 20, 2023 at 9:07:22 AM, Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I thought I stated the recording law accurately? I think Henning was inquiring not so much about the legality of recording per se (which you have accurately addressed) as publicising the recording. As far as I know, US state and federal laws do not have a specific statute against this as long as the recording was legally made in the first place. -- Alex On Sep 20, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Carlos Alvarez via VoiceOps <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I’m surprised that you’re not aware of the laws on this (or lack of). There are only a small number of states with all party consent laws, most are single party. You just can’t record a third-party conversation where you are not involved, and they don’t know you’re recording. It leads to a complexity that I’m trying to help a customer with now. What if someone in AZ (single party) calls a person in CA (all party)? Further, what if the server is in AZ, but the caller is in an all party state, and they call a single party state? Etc. On Sep 20, 2023 at 2:16:02 AM, Alex Balashov via VoiceOps <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Under US law, if the recording was obtained lawfully (that is, if consent was > obtained from both parties, or if the US state in question does it require > consent from both parties, only one party), there is no specific prohibition > against publicising it that I'm aware of. > > — > Sent from mobile, apologies for brevity and errors. > >> On Sep 20, 2023, at 3:52 AM, Henning Westerholt via VoiceOps >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> kind of interesting that you post a recording of incoming call publicly on >> this list. For the record, I did not listen to it. >> Under German law this would be probably a criminal offence with a penalty of >> 2 up to 5 years prison, depending on your position and how serious the >> infringement is. >> >> About the US laws you know of course better, I was just surprised. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Henning >> >> -- >> Henning Westerholt – https://skalatan.de/blog/ >> Kamailio services – https://gilawa.com<https://gilawa.com/> >> >> From: VoiceOps >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On >> Behalf Of Christopher Aloi via VoiceOps >> Sent: Dienstag, 19. September 2023 19:32 >> To: Carlos Alvarez <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Cc: VoiceOps <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Request to block number? >> >> Here is another link if that one didn't work - >> >> https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0dff3yxAUUyWu_Nd9ddlMGY8w#2023%5FSeptember%5F19%5F095014%5FEST-EDT%5FInbound%5F4845791377%5F7169616161%5F714 >> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:19 PM Christopher Aloi >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> I appreciate the concern, and the thought crossed our minds. He called >> twice and once ended up in sales and once in support and he didn't seem to >> be interested in who he spoke with. >> >> Here is a recording of the call.. >> >> https://vaspian-my.sharepoint.com/personal/caloi_vaspian_com/_layouts/15/stream.aspx?id=%2Fpersonal%2Fcaloi%5Fvaspian%5Fcom%2FDocuments%2F2023%5FSeptember%5F19%5F095014%5FEST%2DEDT%5FInbound%5F4845791377%5F7169616161%5F714%2Emp3&ga=1 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:12 PM Carlos Alvarez via VoiceOps >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Is it possible that he’s fixated on a specific employee? Not to be >> alarmist, but it’s worth asking around. I once had a situation where I >> noticed some crazy calling activity in a log, just by coincidence, and found >> that an employee was being stalked/harassed. >> >> On Sep 19, 2023 at 10:08:33 AM, Christopher Aloi via VoiceOps >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Ha! He did say "he has no self control". Maybe just someone with some >> mental challenges. >> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:05 PM Alex Balashov via VoiceOps >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Does your company provide anything of interests to addicts, or anyone with a >> compulsive habit they are trying to kick? (e.g. compulsive shopping for new >> VoIP handsets) >> >> > On Sep 19, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Christopher Aloi via VoiceOps >> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > Hey All, >> > >> > I have a new one. >> > >> > We (hosted phone provider) have received three calls today from an >> > individual asking us to block him from calling our company. I can't >> > figure out his end game. He's tried multiple times and didn't explain why >> > when questioned. He said multiple times he wanted his number to be >> > blocked from calling our company. >> > >> > Thoughts? >> > >> > Could it be a social engineering attempt? 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