I do find this a little confusing.

It's already clear that POTS service has been made exempt "until further 
notice".  So when the small operators exemption deadline was pushed up from end 
of June 2023 to end of June 2022, that -- by logical deduction -- could only 
have included small interconnected VoIP operators (which I believe was made 
explicitly clear anyway, but even if it had been ambiguous in the language, 
...).  

So, out of all the interconnected VoIP operators in the States large OR 
small...who the heck is left who HASN'T already been required to have it 
implemented on their network by this point??  I don't understand who this June 
2023 deadline applies to: the POTS circuit providers aren't covered by it, and 
all sizes of interconnected VoIP providers should have already implemented it a 
year ago at the latest.

Another question that occurs to me (I could probably find the answer to this 
question with a little searching, but since I'm already here talking to the 
U.S. telecom brain-trust): would a provider who merely supplies white-labeled 
service from another interconnected VoIP provider and slaps their own name on 
it be required to obtain their own SHAKEN cert, and have the underlying VoIP 
provider sign any of their customers' calls with that cert instead of a cert 
belonging to the actual VoIP provider, even if the white-labeler/reseller has 
literally nothing to do with the network at all that services the calls?

-- Nathan

-----Original Message-----
From: VoiceOps [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael 
Graves via VoiceOps
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 1:12 PM
To: Mary Lou Carey; Alex Balashov
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by 
June 30th!

There was an extension for "small" providers (under 100k lines) ends on June 
30, 2023.

That extension was basically was targeting rural LECs. It was amended so it 
only included those who have physical infrastructure to their clients.

Those who do not operate such legacy infrastructure are supposed to be signing 
their calls as of June 30, 2022.

There are further "gateway" orders about how any operator is supposed to handle 
calls arriving on their network that are not signed.

Michael Graves
[email protected]
o: (713) 861-4005
c: (713) 201-1262
sip:[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: VoiceOps <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mary Lou Carey via 
VoiceOps
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 2:46 PM
To: Alex Balashov <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] All carriers must get their STIR/SHAKEN certificate by 
June 30th!
Importance: High

Any carrier that provides originating VOIP or a combination of originating VOIP 
/ PSTN /  Wireless VOICE services needs to get its own certificate. My 
understanding is that only those who provide PSTN-only voice services do not 
need to have their own STIR/SHAKEN token because the technology still does not 
support it.

Mary Lou Carey
(615) 796-1111

MARY LOU CAREY
BackUP Telecom Consulting
Office: 615-791-9969
Cell: 615-796-1111

On 2023-05-31 02:11 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:
> Hi Mary Lou,
> 
> Thank you for this.
> 
> A stupid - and certainly belated - question: how exactly is a carrier 
> defined, in the letter of the regulations underlying this deadline? Or 
> to put it another way: who, as a VoIP service provider of one sort or 
> another, _doesn't_ have to get their own token?
> 
> -- Alex
> 
>> On May 31, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Mary Lou Carey via VoiceOps 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I just wanted to send out a reminder that the drop dead date for all 
>> carriers to get THEIR OWN STIR/SHAKEN certificate is coming up on 
>> June 30th. You can still have an underlying carrier sign your calls 
>> for you, but they must sign with YOUR token......not their own! You 
>> have to register with the STI-PA to start the process at this link:
>> 
>> https://authenticatereg.iconectiv.com/register
>> 
>> You must have your own IPES Company Code (aka OCN) and 499 filer ID 
>> to get a STIR/SHAKEN certificate. Just getting the certificate can 
>> take up to several weeks so please don't wait until the last minute 
>> to get one. I would hate to see anyone's network get shut down 
>> because they aren't signing their calls as per the FCC guidelines.
>> 
>> MARY LOU CAREY
>> BackUP Telecom Consulting
>> Office: 615-791-9969
>> Cell: 615-796-1111
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