If the LERG/OCN doesn’t designate a local tandem there is no local tandem and 
the call must be sent to the Access tandem or to carrier.  If you are 
performing a LNP query and the LRN does not subtend Frontier they will not 
route the call.  Generally if you don’t perform a LNP query and the pre-LNP 
NPA-NXX belongs to in this case, Frontier, Frontier will perform the LNP query, 
route the call and assess LNP, switching and transport charges to the 
originating LEC/you if the number is ported.

Sending a log or call record with OPC / DPC and time stamp along with the 
ticket helps eliminate confusion if you are able to do that.

In my experience ISUP 31 does indicate a routing/translation issue.


Mark Timm
Switch Engineer
Aureon
7760 Office Plaza Drive South
West Des Moines
, IA

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Calls through Bandwidth were successfuls, the last carriers (Frontier and VZW) 
don't have anything going on with my customer's TN.

*sigh* Back to Frontier. I called Friday to escalate, but now the ticket in VFO 
is closed, so I'm sure that'll be wonderful to get them to act on now.

It's the same tandem town\CO, but aren't LD tandems and local tandems 
different, or is that separation history and they just all get dropped on the 
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From: "Nick Olsen" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "VoiceOps" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "Mike 
Hammett" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 3:30:48 PM
Subject: Re: Tandem Dropping Calls
Honestly the reply you got was more then I would've expected from any ILEC. 
This lack of care is par for the course for them.

The way I read their reply however is "Trouble isn't in my department, go open 
a ticket elsewhere". And might be indicating that the reject is coming from 
somewhere further downstream. Such as they attempted to alert the line but it 
was busy. And they passed that back to you as a CC31 because... reasons. But 
this is a routing/translations guy, not an access guy. So he doesn't know.

The ILEC's are so compartmentalized that the person that handled this ticket 
doesn't even know where you'd go from there other than it's not his/her problem.

If I were you, I'd try sending the call to IQ or some other LD carrier and see 
if you get the same results. Atleast with the Frontier called TN's (2 of the 
3), you know they're terminating back to that same tandem regardless of if it's 
from you or IQ, or whoever. Try the same call with different ANI's, Different 
results? Maybe the end user is subscribed to some service that is blocking the 
call..etc.

Best of luck!
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Subject: [VoiceOps] Tandem Dropping Calls

We have a new customer that has an increasing number of TNs they can't call. 
I've traced them all down to going through our local Frontier tandem. Calls 
from other phone numbers on our network are fine. Two of the numbers are with 
Frontier, just another ratecenter off of that tandem. The third we know of goes 
to VZW.

I submit a ticket to Frontier with source number, destination number, and call 
date\time for the last set of problem calls, all within the previous 24 hours, 
out of our Metaswitch SAS.

Frontier replies:
Per Software Engineering/DBA: Did not find mention call in IRIS (SS7), did find 
at that time a call to 815-824-XXXX, not 815-824-YYYY. SS7 show that call at 
14:51 came in on DNC tgn 1011, GN089085, OPC=005-092-136 and terminate to 
DeKalb switch. Verified
incoming call in switch, switch not blocking terminating to line. **31 - 
Normal. Unspecified. This cause is used to report a normal event only when no 
other cause in the normal class applies**. Found no trouble in switch 
translations/routing.

Status:
Cleared Awaiting Cust Verification

So we have a very different definition of "cleared". I call a problem cleared 
when it's resolved, not when the reason can't be found.

So Frontier:
1. Can't find one of the three calls I sent them.
2. Doesn't chase the problem to the end of the line.
3. Clarifies that the ISUP error I'm getting means they don't have a reason for 
it to be closed, so probably not a normal circumstance.
4. Doesn't investigate why there's an unclassified release.

How can I incentivize Frontier to actually figure this out?



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