100% agree here. This is cartel / monopoly behavior and should be
attacked as such.
The facts as I understand them are:
1. All API originated traffic is considered A2P regardless of if its an
app with a physical single person thumbing in messages at the far
end. API involved = A2P. Done (lets ignore the fact that iMessage
and Android messaging are now API as well)
2. This means all non MNO traffic is A2P and subject to the fees
3. If my customers who are single/small users, cancelled my service and
signed up for VZW they would get the same service (actually much
less) but not have to deal with this (this is the sort of antitrust
behavior Microsoft has been sued for and lost multiple times over).
4. TCR is in effect levying a tax, but is a private entity, whose
proceeds and use thereof are not public record. Honestly I cannot
figure out what the cost justification for the whole thing really is
or how they arrived at the pricing.
Are we complying? Yes because the average customer simply doesn't / wont
care why their messages aren't going through and presume you are at
fault / incompetent. This isn't the hill I am going to pick to die on.
What we are doing is passing this through nearly 100% with links on our
invoices to a page explaining why this is happening. This gives us to
the penny accounting as well as we are quite keen to join any
class-action suit on the topic. I may start one if I can find counsel
and enough to join in.
We can all thank Ajit Pai for this. SMS is a telecom service not a data
service. There is no longer a differentiation, data = telecom today.
-Ryan
On 11/29/2021 11:30 AM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
Alarmist is warranted. I am equally perplexed by the inconsistent
rules, the vague language, and by everyone insisting that T-Mobile
will unilaterally issue $10k fines per message. On what authority?
What is the appeals process? Dozens of questions, nearly no answers.
I just sent a text from one of my business numbers in response to a
client who texted it. Is this a campaign?
The whole thing where everything that's not another cell phone is
considered automated and not P2P seems disgusting, if not actually
illegal and fraudulent.
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 4:16 PM Oren Yehezkely <[email protected]> wrote:
Nate,
See a thread I started a few months ago about this matter.
I got a lot of negative responses for being an alarmist.
Basically these requirements are set by the different mobile
carriers and they are not the same.
Yes, they all consider customers to be businesses (A2P). No
customer is a consumer (P2P) in the eyes of these
carriers, TCR and even the person who answered you before.
I don't think that the penalty is $10,000 but VI may be trying to
deter you from using SMS
without registering. You may want to consider using a different
carrier for SMS.
Other carriers will also offer to help you register with TCR.
Good luck with dealing with that headache, feel free to contact me
off list to see if we can share some information
on dealing with this.
Regards,
Oren
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 3:37 PM Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry if this was already discussed and I missed it. I saw a
notice on
our Voip Innovations account today that any business DID's
that send SMS
messages to a consumer in any way now have to be registered with
'Campaignregistry.com' Looks like this requires a $200
signup, and then
potentially $10/month/DID. Anyone already gone through this?
Talking
to VI, it seems they're not even sure, but it's a VI
requirement to be
registered by Dec 15.
The whole process seems confusing. VI Makes it seem like
non-compliance
will be expensive. $10,000/violation keeps being referenced.
Would each one of my customers be considered a separate
campaign at
$10/month?
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