Peter,
> Where did your understanding come from?
My info could now be called 'Myth' - I've been out of the retail business for
about 9 years.
For cellular in US, we had to keep track of originating party jurisdiction,
terminating party jurisdiction,
and any O/T cells involved. Then the tax wizards ran some formula to break it
up.
The tax and billing software & services were more expensive than the
communications systems.
Alex, I recall a lot of discussion about 'Safe Harbor' tax payments - rather
than detailed per call billing, using
broad formulas to distribute the tax... Was particularly useful for flat-rate
bundled plans. The tax man seemed unconcerned
as long as they got their money. (Again, I would classify my retained knowledge
as 'myth' )
/ed
**
A couple more data points -
$350 verizon wireless bill:
Surcharges $2.64
Fed Universal Service Charge $0.48
Regulatory Charge $0.21
Administrative Charge $1.95
Taxes and gov fees $1.27
NJ 911 System/Emerg. Resp. Fee $0.90
NJ State Sls Tax-Telco $0.37
Phone.com:
05/12/2021 - 06/11/2021 Virtual Office plan $14.88
05/13/2021 Regulatory recovery fee $0.38
05/12/2021 - 05/13/2021 FUSF (VoIP) $3.32
05/12/2021 - 05/13/2021 FCC regulatory fee (VoIP) $0.05
05/12/2021 - 05/13/2021 Sales tax $1.25
On 6/10/21, 3:58 PM, "Peter Beckman" <[email protected]> wrote:
Ed -- I'd love to see more data on this. Where did your understanding come
from?
I looked at my cellular bill last night, and on 4 lines, the "Fed Universal
Service Charge" was a total of $1.88 on a total bill of about $180 (about
$160 of it was just the monthly fee for 4 plans).
Does anyone know how the wireless companies pay USF? E.g. they are paying
33.4% on what exactly?
Beckman
On Thu, 10 Jun 2021, Ed Guy wrote:
> What service features of the service are subject to USF?
> is it only charged on retail land-line replacement or at multiple levels
as a value-add?
> My understanding is that cellular services do not pay USF ( but, when we
had a
> cell company several years ago, all taxes were outsourced..)
>
>
> On 6/10/21, 1:07 PM, "VoiceOps on behalf of Alex Balashov"
> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> That, and, while I am not at all an expert on what can and can't be
> recovered from customers, it was my impression that not 100% of USF can
> be passed on.
>
> On 6/10/21 1:03 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:
>
> > Except that some of us specifically sell "bottom line" pricing that
is
> > not variable and not padded with 20 lines of fees and taxes. Because
> > our ILEC is known for quoting $100 and billing $130-150 actual price.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 9:38 AM Paul Timmins <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >
> > On 6/10/21 6:23 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, observing it as an outsider who is not a service
provider,
> > I'm a
> > > little shocked to say the least. It's hard to understand
where that
> > > kind of money is supposed to come from with the margins in
this
> > business.
> > >
> > Passthru fees to the end user, duh. There's nothing us telcos
can't
> > cram
> > on the bottom of the bill.
> >
> > Customers are gonna be ticked, but what ya gonna do. It's a line
item
> > now, and a line item later.
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