I've heard nothing else about the service dependencies concept from anyone; that's one of the reasons why I posted the comments about forced shutdowns.
It isn't pretty from a Windows perspective, but it is an immediate solution that will work for NT and Win2K users. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Roland Elliott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, 2002-03-26 07:42 Subject: Re: Forced Shutdown of Windows NT/2K Systems > Isn't anyone else at least a little disappointed with these > "shutdown-and-I-really-mean-it-this-time-comma-dammit" approaches? When > there are processes running on my machines that don't or can't honor > shutdown requests, I kinda wanna know about it. > > I have some vague memory of someone mentioning services dependencies when > this topic last appeared here. Has anyone had any success specifying that > everything that the VNC service doesn't depend on depends on the VNC > service? Wouldn't this postpone VNC's shutdown as late as practical in the > shutdown sequence? Or maybe this would weave VNC too tightly into the system > tapestry for most people's tastes. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex K. Angelopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:18 PM > Subject: Forced Shutdown of Windows NT/2K Systems > > > > As a general rule, I would suggest that it is a good idea to get a > shutdown > > tool installed for NT4 and Win2k, and then use that when it is necessary > to > > do a remote reboot - the point made earlier by Mike Miller and Tony Caduto > > about the lack of an integral tool for forcing shutdown produces > significant > > issues with remote administration. > > > > (This actually reminds me of an old Mark Minasi line. At seminars he used > > to say that you need one specific tool for remote administration of > Windows > > NT: a plane ticket.) > > > > I would suggest that part of the NT install/config process for > > administrators should involve adding specific small tools. When setting > up > > remote control on NT 4/2000, I would suggest getting Sysinternals' > > psshutdown and putting it on the system. It's a 14KiB free download. URL > > for it is: > > > > http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/psshutdown.shtml > > > > > > A good general command line to use for it is: > > > > psshutdown -f -r -l > > > > *DO NOT* forget the -r. > > -f forces shutdown; -r says to reboot after shutdown; -l specifies the > local > > system. It defaults to waiting 20 seconds before rebooting, and can be > > aborted via > > > > psshutdown -a > > > > I've made it a practice in the past to put a batch file with the standard > > options in my path so I could quickly access it. On systems with > > significant resource starvation I even include a couple of preliminary > lines > > which shut dwon the print spooler, IIS, and any other standard > non-critical > > but memory-hungry services before initiating shutdown - then *always* > > rebooted via the batch file. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: > 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY > See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line: 'unsubscribe vnc-list' in the message BODY See also: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/intouch.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------
