On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 6:17 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 05:16:04PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 6:58 PM David Stevens <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 1:18 PM Jason Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 5:41 PM David Stevens <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Define a low power mode for virtio devices where the devices are
> > > > > expected to maintain their state. This gives drivers an option for 
> > > > > power
> > > > > management besides simply resetting their device. In the 
> > > > > virtualization
> > > > > use case, this allows the guest to be suspended even with stateful
> > > > > virtio devices like gpu and fs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Low power mode is primarily defined at the transport layer. The only
> > > > > part that depends on device-type specific details is whether a given
> > > > > virtqueue is device driven or driver driven.
> > > > >
> > > > > This change only defines the transport-specific implementation for
> > > > > Virtio over PCI.
> > > >
> > > > A dumb question, if this is only for PCI, can the device just
> > > > implement no_soft_reset via PMC?
> > >
> > > This is basically No_Soft_Reset, yes. If a change similar to [1] would
> > > be acceptable based only on the No_Soft_Reset bit even with no concept
> > > of power management in the virtio spec, then I personally don't have
> > > any problems with that.
> > >
> > > [1] 
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/[email protected]/
> >
> > So if I read the code correctly, the current Qemu advertises PM but
> > without no_soft_reset.
> >
> > So this patch seems to break e.g virtio-net and doesn't fix virtio-GPU.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > >
> > > -David
> > >
>
> what is the breakage exactly?

It looks to me we need:

1) Device side, if device can preserve state on d3hot, it may
advertise no_soft_reset
2) Driver side, if driver sees no_soft_reset, it doesn't need to
manually suspend and resume. But in the above patch, it only checks
the existence of PM, it looks to me it needs to check no_soft_reset
instead.

> Maybe we need a new feature bit?

Probably not.

Thanks

>
> --
> MST
>


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