Robin, I am all for accessibility of all platforms, too, but that doesn't mean that they are all equally accessible. As far as features are concerned, I believe all iOS 8 features which are not dependent on specific hardware are on the 4S. Apple Pay does require an NFC chip and since no phone before the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus has one it can, of course, not work. In any case, Apple Pay is not even an iOS 8 feature, it's a new service Apple is offering and not part of iOS. Once Android is as secure as iOS and once Windows Phone version whatever has the same level of iOS I'll happily consider both until then I stick with where I feel I get the most bang for my buck and in my opinion that is iOS and the iPhone. I assume you have one as well since you are on this list unless you are just on it to bash Apple. Let me know when you start a Windows Phone list as I would probably like to join just to keep up to speed with how accessibility there is progressing.
Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released That was then, and this is now. Microsoft's WP8.1 works on MobilePhones such as WP8 MobilePhones, which were released 2 Years ago, and are still scheduled to receive more updates such as WP8.1 UpDate 1 and so forth. So I suggest you Stop Trashing other Mobile PlatForms in an effort to stray the conversation away from its primary purpose, which is Apple's iOS8 doesn't appear to support the MobileDevices it stated it would give or take a couple of features such as Apple's iOS8 ApplePay. Fragmentation IS rearing its head IN Apple's Garden. It's NOT exclusive to Google's Android anymore. Is it? If I'm wrong, someone (Apple FanBoys), please correct me. I'm NOT against Apple or any other Mobile Platform. I'm for accessibility IN all Mobile Platforms (Apple's iOS, Microsoft's Windows (WP), & Google's Android) At 03:47 PM 9/20/2014, you wrote: >Works with iOS 8 with limitations. Apple does their best to support >older hardware, and does a better job than Google and Microsoft. >Good luck getting the latest version "of Android working on a four >year old Android phone. I also used to have similar problems getting >new versions of Windows working on four year old computers. > >The fact is, technology is always changing. Moore's Law states that >device power will double every 18 months. So, a four year old >device, such as an iPhone 4S, is the great grandfather to the iphone >6 (three generations ago). > >David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >Email: [email protected] >Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >Sent from my iPhone > > > On 21 Sep 2014, at 10:25, Pablo Morales <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > But the official statement from apple, who is who sold those iPhone 4s, and > > who created IOs8, is that IOs 8, works on iPhone 4s. > > So, we should not trust in apple? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > > Of Joanne Chua > > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:39 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released > > > > Well, first at all, i'm not sure why people will upgrade t heir 4s to ios8. > > There are some key eatures on ios8 that won't be supported by iphone 5c and > > below, and some are quite exclusive to 6 and 6+. > > And again, all these support or not supported, for which phones and which > > ios, it is not something new. It is the same old same old arguement from > > pretty much the first gen of iphone to now. > > People constently have problems reported from an old phone upgraded to the > > new ios. > > It is expected. > > Apple does say that ios8 can be install on 4s. But if there is no > > slaggishness, then, people won't keep upgrading their phone as the new ios > > come out, will they. > > Apple do that for a reason, they don't just release a new ios out from no > > where, just because they can. > > > > If you want to upgrade, that is your choice. But be prepare for te > > slaggishness. And, if you do upgrade for a 4s to ios8, and > knowing very well > > that there are problems, stop complaining about it either... > > > >> On 20/09/2014, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. I've seen posts to this list > >> where people have said their 4S's are running sluggishly with IOS 8 > >> and others who claim it's just fine. The bottom line though is that > >> the 4S is supported by IOS 8, so it should run just fine, and if it > >> doesn't then Apple needs to fix it. > >> > >>> On 09/19/2014 09:56 PM, Charles wrote: > >>> There have been a lot of reports that it might not work on the 4S. > >>> > >>> --- > >>> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're > >>> finished, you! really! are! finished! > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> *From:* Nishi <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:45 AM > >>> *Subject:* Re: IOS 8 Released > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> I have a 32gb Iphone 4s and i have updated to Ios 8. > >>> .. > >>> > >>> I must say that i am not happy at all after the update! The phone is > >>> very slow and apps tend to crash a lot! > >>> Voice over re starts on its own all the time. Am also having a > >>> problem marking mails and moving them to the trash! > >>> Over all, i am not happy with the update. I wish u all the best. > >>> Regards, > >>> Nishi.nt from my iPhone > >>> > >>> On 18-Sep-2014, at 7:02 pm, Anita <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi list, > >>>> How well does IOS 8 work on the iPhone 4S 32 gig? Does it > >>>> provide more stability, or work better on newer models? > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Anita > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> *From:* Jonathan Mosen <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:23 PM > >>>> *Subject:* Re: IOS 8 Released > >>>> > >>>> You can, there is also a very thorough bug summary on Applevis. > >>>> The one bug I would add that is not presently in that article, > >>>> is that sometimes answering a call with a two-finger > >>>> double-tap after you've been listening to audio will cause > >>>> audio to resume rather than answer the call. 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