Press it and don't let go?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray T. Mahorney" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: IOS 8 Releasedusing voice messaging
how do you hold a button on a touch screen? I can never get that to work.
Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 22:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: IOS 8 Releasedusing voice messaging
No, you can only send a voice message to somebody who has iMessage, it
doesn't have to be iOS 8 but
of course they can only receive a voice message and not send one unless they
have iOS 8.
\You double tap and hold the button as long as you are recording. After you
are done let go and then
you have to explore the screen and find the Send button. You can also play
your message. It does not
work like Whats App where the message is sent as soon as you let go of the
button.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Amy Beatty Christenson
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IOS 8 Releasedusing voice messaging
Does anyone know if there is a bug in the text messages where you can use
the voice message button,
I push the button I tap it twice and hold and nothing happens, and also if
you want to text someone
that does not have iOS
8 it looks like the button does not show up, does anyone know if you can use
the voice messaging to
talk to anyone with text messages
On Sep 17, 2014, at 3:15 PM, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote:
Because, as I recall, he was challenged on the practicality and
benefit of
doing this; I could be wrong!
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
On Sep 17, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Barry Hadder <[email protected]> wrote:
Two questions come to mind.
1. Why does Apple have to spend $35 for every iPhone sold for
accessibility.
2. Why did Mr. cook feel it necessary to make that an issue at a
shareholders meeting.
On Sep 17, 2014, at 2:34 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]>
wrote:
Wow, what an interesting comparison. In reality, such devices have
been
released. The first several devices were not at all accessible to the blind.
Therefore, your argument does not hold up to what actually happens. The fact
is, we are a very tiny
group of people.
At work, we have a water filtration system which has multiple settings.
the system announces which type of water is coming out when it is started.
It does not announce the setting when being set. We have a few pieces of
tape on the face of the
machine so I can find the start button.
My microwave oven has no announcements whatsoever. We marked the
touch
panel with dots on the buttons, but I have no way of knowing for certain
what I have pressed until
it is finished. The same is true with our washing machine and dryer.
It is unfair to those of us who are blind, but we are not a viable
market for any mainstream product. Therefore, any bugs which effect
VoiceOver only are not major or showstopers for over 99% of Apple's
market
And yet, Apple spends $35 per every iPhone sold for accessibility.
This
is what was stated in April at a shareholder meeting by Tim Cook. This is
not an insignificant
amount of money.
Now that the beta cycle is complete, send in those bug reports. The
minor
VO only bugs can now be worked on more by Apple.
Oh, and as to the question about why doesn't Apple wait until all
minor
bugs are fixed? Well, it is impossible to fix all bugs, so Apple would fall
behind as a company if
they stop innovating in today's world. The majority of those who buy
products tend to purchase those
products with the most innovative useful features. For example, we just
purchased a robotic vacuum.
We found a model which the base/recharging station empties the dirt from the
robot cleaner. This
way, we only need to empty the dust from the bin in the base station once a
month or so. Much better
than emptying the robot's little dust cup after every use. Oh, and the robot
needs to be programmed
by the sighted person. It does not have a blind-accessible interface.
Fortunately, the robotic lawnmower we are planning to purchase next year has
an iPhone app that
appears to be accessible.
On 18/09/2014, at 6:35 am, Neal Ewers <[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry if you get this twice. My email provider has a few bugs today too.
Smile.
I did not say it had to be perfect, but consider this.
If you were developing a popular product that would drastically
decrease heart attacks, would you release it first with lots of bugs
for people who were blind just because it worked for people who see.
Would your company philosophy be that as long as it works for
sighted people it will be released even though it is not yet ready
for people who are blind? I don't expect it to be perfect, but I see
no reason why it is not just as stable for me as it is for my wife.
Why am I assumed to be impatient if I think people who are blind
should have equal access? Equal access means it works equally for
both populations when it is released. I think that is a reasonable
assumption.
By the way, I did send a similar email to apple.
Neal
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released
I think that you are far, far, far too impatient. You expect it to
work perfectly, the very first time out of the box, not even
considering all of the work it has taken to produce such a major and
complicated overhaul. Did version 7.0 work perfectly the first
time? Not hardly. It took a while to get the bugs worked out, but
they did it. So, rather than immediately whine and complain, how
about giving them a bit of slack? Give them time to work the bugs
out,
just like they did after releasing version 7.0?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Ewers" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: IOS 8 Released
If people who are sighted had this many bugs with the new OS, Apple
would not have released it. I am tired of developers thinking that
they can release something to the public and then, if they have
time, fix the bugs that make the device much less stable for people
who have a disability. I know, at one time, Apple was in the
forefront of accessibility. I gave them high praise and they
deserved it. But, as some of my Mac user friends have said, they
seem to have lately been resting on their former reputation and less
on getting it right the first time. Obviously, they knew about all
of these iOS bugs before release. This is why they have beta testers
who are blind and have low vision. Yet, they decided that was more
important to get it to people who see, than to wait until it was
just as ready for people who are blind or have limited vision.
Shame, shame, shame on you Apple, I thought you were a better
company than that. Put your development where your mouth is and fix
the
many problem issues in iOS 8. Otherwise, don't claim to be such a friend of
people who are disabled.
Neal
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released
I'm sure that we can. All we have to do is to wait until they can
get it to us. I will patiently wait.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Diakogeorgiou" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:58 AM
Subject: IOS 8 Released
Since IOS is released can we get info from beta testers?
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