Braille displays are under the control of voiceover, and as such are not Bluetooth keyboards per se. (They are Bluetooth 'devices'. Therefore, unless the Bluetooth situation overall is bad, I don't think the problems will extend to that use which, as i indicate, is controlled generally by voiceover and its Braille settings. Hoping that voiceover itself is not rendered buggy!) What i will say, is, that i would like to see Braille displays being a bit less dependent on Voiceover speech settings. (Up to now, or at least in iOS7, speech is as No. 1; braille is No. 2.)
----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: RE: Knitting Apps Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7 I am not a braille user, but there are definitely some bluetooth keyboard issues which are not pretty. If you rely on a bluetooth keyboard heavily I would wait just a bit to see what happens. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jane Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Knitting Apps Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7 Hi. :) I missed that part. I don't always read descriptions as thoroughly as i should. I am as guilty as the next guy of skipping over them, or only hearing small parts of them. I keep hearing rumors that if we use bluetooth keyboards, we shoulnt'd upate, but I don't know if that applies to Refreshable Braille displays. I suppose you, or no one else really, can say. Jane On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Jane, I don't think the "Supports only iOS 7" means that it won't support iOS 8, but rather that it won't work on anything before iOS7. There are some apps which are like that now and over time more of them will not support iOS versions before iOS 7. If you read the entire description, here is what it says at the very end: Compatibility: Requires iOS 7.0 or later. Compatible with iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. This app is optimized for iPhone 5. Having said that, maybe hold off just a bit before installing iOS 8, doing it on the first or second day of the release is probably a bad idea anyways since hundreds of millions of people around the world will try to upgrade and Apple's servers will be totally bogged down. Also you might want to wait until the first wave of feedback comes in. Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jane Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Knitting Apps Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7 Its called Knit. I use it to keep track of projects. You put in a project name, you add the number of rows for the project. You can even add the number of stitches per row, if you want to keep that close track. Here's the iTunes store link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knit-knitting-counter-for-ios/id473675243?mt=8 some of it is labeled really well. For instance, you can pick the right kind of picture to put for each project because they are clearly and correctly labeled. I know this because I had my sighted child check. She is a knitting/crocheting fan like I am, and this is her favorite. Some of it, like the button you hit to add rows when you complete it, are not so well labeled. You will probably want to re-label the "iPad plus off" button to something easier to remember. LOL! There's also Counter+ but I haven't figured out how that works so well. Here is the iTunes store link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/counter-+/id478557426?mt=8 On Sep 11, 2014, at 8:11 AM, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) <[email protected]> wrote: Hi. What is the knitting app? I'm interested! Lucy Edmonds From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jane Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7 Hi, Ron. I guess I will have to hold off, then. I just found the neatest knitting app, but it only works under IOS7 and I don't know if they will re-release it. I hate having to choose between updating and losing apps. On the other hand, I promised someone I would update to see if a certain language was supported. *shakes head* Jane On Sep 10, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Ron Pelletier <[email protected]> wrote: Jane, If we go with the past,chances are that you won't be able to downgrade unless Apple offers that possibility but, its not a guarantee they will. Ron & Danvers From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jane Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7 How do you save an earlier version? I mean, the version I am currently running? What if I need to downgrade? Jane On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: If the past is any indication, you just install the update. Your settings and data stay put, and the only change is the new iOS version. Of course, you should always do a full backup before any update, just in case something goes wrong, but most times nothing bad happens. 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