Well said, Christopher. Also, different people certainly have different
learning styles, as Jonathan said. And people's patience and frustration
levels with a new tool, such as iOS8 will be, also vary. Lists can only
get you so far; and one often finds more negative messages about things
wrong than messages about things right. yet the fact is that someone's
'major bug' often will be another's minor irritant - if even that.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
I agree with Jerry here, but I'll let the list moderators deal with the
rudeness on the list.
It is true that a lot of information will show up on this list, and even
more information will be made freely available via podcasts on places
like AppleVis.com. There are some people though who would like a well
written and well organized introduction into the new features of IOS 8.
It's much more efficient to go through such a book then it is to slog
through all of the questions and answers that will show up on this list.
It'll be a high traffic list when IOS 8 comes out, many questions will
be repeated, opinions will be stated, subject lines won't be updated,
threads will be hijacked and although it'll be a great resource, it
could be a pretty tedious way to find the few nuggets of new information
someone is particularly looking for in IOS 8.
Jonathan has freely contributed a lot of information to the blindness
community over the years, and I know I've learned a lot from his posts,
his podcasts and his blog articles. I don't have a problem with someone
putting his time and effort into writing a good resource for the blind
and then putting it up for sale. I doubt anyone is going to get rich
writing a book for the blind IOS user. If it's a good resource, and
people are willing to pay for it, then it'll be successful and a useful
tool for those who want to get that information in that format. Not
everyone learns and picks up things in the same way so the more choices
the better. I'm sure there are books for the sighted IOS user, so I see
it as a good thing that we in the blindness community have the same type
of choices.
I know Jonathan is a professional who's been working in the blindness
field for a while, so I'm assuming he will take the high road and not
respond in kind to the post Jerry is referring to below. This is a
public list, and none of us get to choose who is and is not on the list.
We won't like every opinion that's expressed here, so hopefully everyone
will consider the source and let a member express their opinion without
it devolving into a flame war.
On 07/29/2014 01:18 AM, Jerry Mader wrote:
I am not trying to start a flame war here but I have to put my
opinion in on this matter. I think that it is very rude what Joseph
had said. I don't think that Jonathan is trying to make money off of
us I think he's just trying to sell a book. You don't have to buy
that book if you so desire sir but there may be other people who do.
I wish that people wouldn't make such disrespectful comments. Because
technically, we are very lucky to have this book! Do you know of any
other place we can get this information besides this list and
Jonathan's book? You tell me where to go? And I will go look. But I
don't believe there is any other place. Jonathan has spent countless
hours probably, researching all of this information to bring it to us
in a straight forward way. Why disrespect the guy by saying what you
did. That was not right. However you have your opinion I have mine.
I'm just stating mine. I did not mean to start any trouble I was just
saying what I felt. And I will be one who buys
this book. It is only $20. That is not that expensive! It really isn't.
Think about this would you rather spend $20 on something you can use, or
spend $20 and something that you may never use? I've known things that
people spend at least $20 on, that they never use. That I've known
things like this book, that people spend money on and do use every day.
Just thought I would throw my two cents in. Jerry Mader
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Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail
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