The folding feature sounds interesting, but I do not think that I would like the style since it will be wider than it is tall. It likely won't easily fit into a purse or pants pocket and as Richard said, it will likely be awkward to hold in one hand. I hate how phones just keep getting bigger and bigger. If I want an Ipad, I will purchase an Ipad to use. I do not want my phone to be the size of an ipad.
On Fri, Jul 10, 2026 at 11:27 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah, this just seems too big for comfortable use, especially since I have > no vision to really appreciate the screen. I like the idea of going back to > touch ID, but $2000 is too much! > > > > *From:* 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2026 10:26 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Apple's first foldable iPhone! > > > > My wife has an iPad Mini, which has a 7.9 inch screen. It is awkward at > best to hold it in one hand. > > > > > > > > Richard, USA > > "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley > > > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > > (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) > > > > > > On Jul 10, 2026, at 8:17 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > I’m wondering how well this phone will fit in only one hand? > > James B > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of > *janet gross > *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2026 9:12 AM > *To:* 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Apple's first foldable iPhone! > > > > Good Morning Everyone, > > > > I was just reading about Apple’s new foldable phone, and I thought I would > share for those who might be interested, so I copied and pasted it below. > > So, let’s get our check books out for this one! This sounds quite > interesting, can you imagine the price? > > No face ID, back to touch ID, I know some will like this switch! > > > > > > sApple's first foldable iPhone, expected September 2026. > > By MacRumors Staff on July 6, 2026 > > iPhone Fold > > At a Glance > > Apple is going to launch its first foldable iPhone as part of the iPhone > 18 Pro lineup. Featuring a ~5.5-inch display when closed, and a ~7.8-inch > display when open, plus a super thin design with minimal crease and a > durable hinge. > > Rumored Features > > Book-style fold > > 4:3 aspect ratio > > ~5.5 inches closed, ~7.8 inches open > > Titanium and aluminum frame > > Nearly invisible crease > > Touch ID instead of Face ID > > A20 Chip, 12GB RAM > > $2,000+ price tag > > Roundup Last Updated 4 days ago > > iPhone Fold > > Contents > > iPhone Fold > > Foldable iPhone Design > > Minimal Crease > > Hinge Design > > Design Mockups > > Cases > > Foldable iPhone Colors > > Repairability > > No Face ID > > iOS 27 Foldable iPhone Hints > > A20 Chip > > RAM > > Foldable iPhone Cameras > > Modem > > No SIM Slot > > Battery > > Naming > > iOS Updates > > Pricing > > Launch Date > > Other Apple Foldable Rumors > > Apple's Second Foldable iPhone > > iPhone Fold Timeline > > Apple has been working on a foldable iPhone for more than a decade, and > we've been hearing rumors about foldables for at least that long. It's > finally time for an iPhone with a folding mechanism to launch, and we're > expecting the first foldable iPhone to come out before the end of the year. > > > > The foldable iPhone will be part of the fall 2026 iPhone lineup. It will > be introduced alongside the iPhone 18 Pro and the iPhone 18 Pro Max in > September, and it could launch in the same timeframe. Some rumors suggest > it will launch alongside the iPhone 18 Pro models, while others indicate it > will come slightly later, perhaps in October, due to manufacturing issues. > We aren't sure what Apple plans to call the foldable iPhone, but rumors > have referred to it as either the "iPhone Fold" or the "iPhone Ultra." > Since Samsung calls its smartphone the Galaxy Fold, it's unlikely Apple > will actually refer to the device as the iPhone Fold. > > > > Apple decided on a book-style foldable design that's wider than it is > tall, which will make it unique among foldable smartphones. Most foldable > smartphones are taller than they are wide, but the foldable iPhone is > rumored to have a 4:3 aspect ratio like an iPad. Apple designed the > foldable iPhone to have the same feel as an iPad, and when unfolded, it > will have an OLED display that's close to the size of an iPad mini. > > > > It will look like a hybrid between an iPhone and an iPad, with iPad-like > functionality and some iPad-like interface options when unfolded. Bloomberg > reporter Mark Gurman says it will be the "most significant overhaul in the > iPhone's history." > > > > The iPhone Fold will be around 5.5 inches when it's closed, and 7.8 inches > when it's open, making it just a bit smaller than the 8.3-inch iPad mini. > It's supposedly going to be as thin as 4.5mm, which would make it Apple's > thinnest iPhone to date. The current thinnest iPhone is the iPhone Air at > 5.6mm thick, so an iPhone that's even thinner would be an impressive feat. > > > > Apple is using a titanium chassis for durability because the foldable will > be so thin, and the company spent time making a durable hinge and a display > that's close to crease-free. Many foldables on the market have a highly > visible crease in the middle, and Apple wanted to minimize the crease as > much as possible. Keeping the crease almost invisible is one of the reasons > why it took Apple so long to launch a folding iPhone. > > > > With such a thin chassis, Apple has to compromise in some areas. The > iPhone Fold will have two rear cameras instead of three. It will have a > Wide lens and an Ultra Wide lens much like the standard iPhone models, but > it will not have the Telephoto lens that Apple uses for its Pro devices > because there simply isn't room for it. Apple also didn't have space for > the TrueDepth camera system, which means we're going back to Touch ID. > Rumors suggest the foldable iPhone will have a Touch ID power button > similar to the Touch ID power button on Apple's iPads. There will be no > Face ID and no facial recognition for unlocking the device. > > > > A foldable iPhone won't be cheap, and rumors suggest that it's going to be > priced starting at over $2,000. It will be the most expensive iPhone in the > 2026 lineup, and the most expensive iPhone to date. > > > > Foldable iPhone Design > > Apple tested several fold styles and device sizes, including smartphones > with a middle fold that opens horizontally into an iPad-sized device and a > clamshell design that folds in half vertically. Apple went with the > book-style foldable that will have an outer display and camera that can be > used when the iPhone is closed, and a larger, inner display that offers > more screen space. > > > > Foldable iPhone 2023 Feature Homescreen > > > > Rumors suggest the foldable iPhone will have a frame made from titanium > and aluminum. Apple could use titanium for the stress-bearing parts of the > frame to ensure that it doesn't bend, and aluminum in other areas for heat > dissipation and to keep weight low. > > > > Current rumors suggest that the foldable iPhone will feature a display > that's around 5.5 inches when it's folded in half, and a larger 7.8-inch > iPad-like display when it's opened up. > > > > The iPhone Fold could be around 4.5mm when it is open, and 9mm to 9.5mm > when it is closed. If it is 4.5mm when open, the foldable iPhone will be > Apple's thinnest device by far. That title is currently held by the 13-inch > iPad Pro, which is 5.1mm thick. Some rumors suggest it will be a few > millimeters thicker, but it is expected to be thinner than current iPhones. > > > > One analyst, Jeff Pu, believes Apple could be working on not one, but two > foldable iPhones, in different 7.9-inch and 8.3-inch sizes, but no other > rumors have backed up this claim. > > > > According to one leaker, the inner (unfolded) display will measure in at > 7.76 inches with a 2,713 x 1,920 resolution, while the outer display > (folded) will measure in at 5.49 inches with a 2,088 x 1,422 resolution and > a 4:3 aspect ratio. Another leaker has suggested it will have a 7.6-inch > display size when unfolded. > > > > Minimal Crease > > The 2026 foldable iPhone reportedly has no visible crease, a problem that > affects most foldable devices on the market. Apple is said to have pursued > eliminating the crease "regardless of cost," and the company has developed > a "new material property" that makes the crease disappear. The crease has > been described as "nearly invisible" when the iPhone is unfolded. > > > > samsung z fold 3 half folded > > > > Samsung's Galaxy Z Fold > > One of the reasons that Apple waited so long to release a foldable iPhone > is because it struggled to make a device that did not have a visible > crease, but it may be a problem that has now been largely solved given the > uptick in rumors. > > > > Apple is planning to use ultra-thin glass for the foldable iPhone, and > Chinese manufacturer Lens Technology could be Apple's primary glass > supplier. Corning is likely to provide the raw materials to Lens > Technology, with Apple choosing the supplier because of its expertise in > glass strengthening and minimizing side cracks after cutting. > > > > The foldable iPhone will use a new type of display panel created by > Samsung, using a custom display process that Apple has the trademark for. > The process includes integrating touch sensors directly into the display > panel, reducing overall thickness by approximately 19 percent. The > engineering advancement brings a lighter build and a more rigid display > structure, and the display meets Apple's requirements for thinness, power > efficiency, and brightness. > > > > Apple could use a structural glass mid-frame to minimize the visible > display crease in the fold, while applying a color filter-on-encapsulation > layer together with a circular polarizer module to improve color purity and > light transmission. > > > > Advances in optically clear adhesive (OCA) have been important in Apple's > quest to minimize the visible crease in the iPhone Fold. Very subtle shifts > in alignment of the display panel components can cause micro-cracks or > deformation, leading to a visible crease. OCA formulations stay pliable > during gradual bending, and can flow into microscopic irregularities to > reduce light scattering and the visibility of the crease. > > > > Leakers suggest the iPhone Fold will have a crease depth that's under > 0.15mm, which is shallow and should be less noticeable to the eye and to > the touch than a crease that is deeper. The crease angle is under 2.5 > degrees. The crease angle describes how sharp the fold line appears when > the display is unfolded. A smaller angle suggests a smoother, flatter > transition across the fold. > > > > Smartphone makers like Samsung do not publish details on crease > measurements, so it is difficult to compare Apple's crease design rumors to > existing foldable devices. > > > > Hinge Design > > To minimize the crease in the display, Apple plans to use liquid metal for > the iPhone's hinge, which will improve durability. This is one technique > that might allow Apple to get rid of the crease that has plagued other > foldable smartphones. Apple's hinge will be higher quality than hinges used > for other foldable smartphones. > > > > Foldable iPhone 2023 Feature Iridescent Search > > > > Liquid metal, or amorphous metal, has a structure that is more resistant > to bending, deformation, and denting than traditional metal. Its properties > are derived from the manufacturing method, which involves rapid heating and > cooling. Its structure makes it tougher than titanium alloy, and it has a > stainless steel look. Apple may also use a combination of titanium and > stainless steel for the hinge. > > > > Apple is allegedly running into issues with the foldable iPhone's hinge, > but the problem isn't expected to impact launch timing. The hinge is > failing to meet Apple's quality control standards under prolonged, > high-frequency opening and closing. > > > > Design Mockups > > A 3D printed mockup version of the iPhone Fold provides an idea of what > the device will look like. The mockup isn't spot on because we don't know > Apple's exact specifications for the iPhone Fold as of yet, but it is in > line with multiple rumors that we've heard at ~7.6 to 7.8 inches when open > and 5.5 inches when closed. > > > > It's smaller than the iPad mini, but it will have the largest display of > an iPhone to date. It's rumored to have a 4:3 aspect ratio, and it will be > short and wide, featuring a book-like form factor. > > > > The first alleged iPhone Fold dummy model came out in early April, and > more images followed later in the month. We don't know if these images are > reflective of the iPhone Fold's actual design, but they have all of the > design features that have been rumored, along with the right sizing. > > > > sonny dickson iphone 18 fold dummy models > > > > There is a raised camera bump that does not span across the entire back of > the device, which is expected. It has a two-lens camera system, and a thin > chassis. > > > > foldable iphone dummy modelImage via Vadim Yuryev. > > The dummy models show no signs of an Action Button or a MagSafe magnetic > ring for charging purposes, so it's possible these features will be missing > due to the thinness of the device. We're also not expecting a SIM slot, > much like the iPhone Air. > > > > Dummy models give us the clearest look at what the foldable iPhone will > look like so far, and they are often accurate and based on leaked CAD > information from Apple suppliers. > > > > foldable iphone dummy sonny dickson > > > > Cases > > The first leaked cases for the foldable iPhone have a split design with a > bar-shaped camera cutout for the dual cameras. There's a circular area for > MagSafe magnets, and a cutout for the Camera Control button. > > > > iphone ultra case > > > > Case makers often start producing accessories ahead of an iPhone > announcement to be the first with a case available. Apple doesn't give > manufacturers a heads up on iPhone design, so they use CAD renders and > leaked info from Apple suppliers. Designs are speculative, but it's a big > money business and the leaks often turn out to be accurate. > > > > iphone ultra case 2 > > > > Foldable iPhone Colors > > Apple is said to be planning to "stay away from fun colors" and stick to > more traditional space gray/black and silver/white finishes for the iPhone > Fold. > > > > One rumor has described the darker color as a shade of indigo rather than > black. The color is said to be similar to the iPhone 17 Pro's Deep Blue > finish. The Deep Blue color is one of the darker blues that Apple has > debuted, but it is clearly a blue shade and not black. Another rumor > suggests there might not be a black color. > > > > A leaked image allegedly depicts the lighter color option for the foldable > iPhone. > > > > iphone fold ultra leak@2x scaled > > > > Repairability > > The foldable iPhone will reportedly have a design that makes it easier to > repair than other foldable smartphones on the market. Chinese leaker > Instant Digital said Apple used "rigorous underlying engineering logic" > with a modular design that eliminates the internal ribbon cable routing > that often complicates competing foldables. > > > > Apple put the motherboard on the right side of the device, and the cables > for the volume buttons run upward instead of across the back of the display > to maximize internal space. Apple is said to be using an innovative stacked > design that dedicates almost all space to the display and battery. > > > > No Face ID > > Because the iPhone Fold is so thin, there isn't room for a TrueDepth > camera system. It won't use Face ID, and will instead have a Touch ID side > button, similar to an iPad. > > > > There will be a front-facing hole punch camera for both the inner and > outer displays for selfies, but unlocking the iPhone biometrically will be > done with Touch ID. > > > > iOS 27 Foldable iPhone Hints > > Apple seems to be preparing for a foldable iPhone in iOS 27, and there are > new references to a foldable in the operating system's frameworks. Apple > has also been emphasizing flexible app layouts that would be useful for a > foldable device. > > > > Apple told developers to move away from designing apps for specific > devices and fixed orientations, and to instead target a "dynamic range of > sizes and aspect ratios." iOS 27 adds support for resizable iOS apps in > iPhone Mirroring and on the iPad, and apps in iOS 27 will be automatically > opted in to resizability. > > > > Developers have been asked to treat every iOS app as something that may > need to be used in a variety of form factors. > > > > iOS 27 frameworks include mentions of "foldState" and "angleDegrees," > further hinting at a foldable device. There's also a new key that returns > the total count of built-in displays on a device, which would only be > necessary if a device had more than one display. > > > > A20 Chip > > The foldable iPhone will use Apple's A20 chip, built on TSMC's 2nm process. > > > > The transition to 2nm will allow for more transistors in each chip, which > will boost performance. The A20 chips could be up to 15 percent faster and > 30 percent more efficient than A19 chips. Apple is also expected to use > TSMC's Wafer-Level Multi-Chip Module (WMCM) chip packaging technology. WMCM > will see RAM directly integrated on the chip's wafer with the CPU, GPU, and > Neural Engine. > > > > Incorporating RAM this way could bring faster performance for overall > tasks, better thermal management, and improved Apple Intelligence. > > > > Apple will use vapor chamber cooling for the foldable iPhone even though > it's a technique that makes manufacturing difficult. Vapor chamber cooling > circulates deionized water to move heat away from the chip inside, > distributing the heat throughout the iPhone frame. Apple already uses vapor > chamber cooling in the iPhone 17 Pro. > > > > RAM > > The iPhone Fold is expected to feature 12GB RAM. > > > > Foldable iPhone Cameras > > The foldable iPhone could have an under-display camera for the interior of > the device, with a single hole punch camera for the exterior when it's > folded up. The under-display camera is not expected to feature Face ID, > with Apple instead adopting Touch ID. The camera could have a 24-megapixel > resolution, which would be an industry first. Some Android devices use > under-display cameras, but not at that high resolution. > > > > The foldable iPhone rear camera setup will have a Main lens and an Ultra > Wide lens with no Telephoto lens. Rumors suggest that both lenses will be > 48 megapixels, which isn't too surprising because current iPhone models > have 48-megapixel lenses. > > > > All-in-all, the foldable iPhone is expected to include four total cameras. > > > > Modem > > The foldable iPhone is expected to include Apple's second-generation C2 > modem, a successor to the C1X modem. The C2 will be on par with Qualcomm's > modems, and it will support mmWave 5G, unlike the C1 and C1X. > > > > The C2 modem will support a privacy-focused Limit Precise Location setting > that cuts down on the location data that's available to mobile networks. > Networks will not be able to determine exact location with the option, so > instead of seeing location down to an address, carriers might instead see > the neighborhood where a device is located. > > > > Not all carriers have opted in to Limit Precise Location, but the > expansion of Apple-designed modems to all iPhones could push networks to > add the feature to lure customers. > > > > Apple's C2 modem could add support for 5G satellite connectivity, allowing > Apple to use NR-NTN, or New Radio Non-Terrestrial Networks. The NR-NTN > standard can relate to direct phone-to-satellite links as well as the use > of satellites as backhaul for carrier networks to extend coverage into > remote areas. > > > > The addition could allow the foldable iPhone to offer full internet access > over satellite, supplementing 5G networks for increased coverage when > standard networks are unavailable. Apple is planning to allow third-party > apps to access a satellite connection, plus Apple Maps and the Photos app > could work over satellite. > > > > No SIM Slot > > Apple's foldable iPhone won't have a SIM slot and will instead use eSIM, > much like the iPhone Air. > > > > Battery > > Apple worked to increase the power efficiency of its first foldable > display in an effort to maximize battery life, and rumors suggest that the > foldable iPhone will have decent battery life despite a thin size. Apple > reduced the display driver integrated circuit (IC) from 28nm to 16nm, which > could lead to battery savings. Apple plans to use high-density battery > cells for the foldable iPhone. > > > > The foldable iPhone could have a battery in the 5,400 to 5,800 mAh range, > which would make it the largest battery capacity that Apple has used in an > iPhone. The iPhone 17 Pro Max has the current largest battery at 5,088 mAh. > > > > Naming > > A few rumors have claimed that Apple will call its foldable iPhone the > "iPhone Ultra," including Macworld. The iPhone Ultra reportedly won't have > "18" numbering like the iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max. > > > > During the rumor cycle, sites have taken to calling the new iPhone the > iPhone Fold, but it's unlikely Apple will actually use that name. Samsung > already has the Galaxy Fold, and that would be too similar for Apple's > tastes. Apple already uses the Ultra naming for the Apple Watch and for the > version of CarPlay that more deeply integrates with in-car systems. > > > > iOS Updates > > The foldable iPhone will allegedly have a display with a 4:3 aspect ratio, > much like the iPad. Since the display will be close to the iPad mini in > size, the foldable iPhone is going to be able to run two apps side-by-side > for the first time, with a simplified version of multitasking available. > > > > iOS 27 Mock Quick > > > > Apple is updating iOS to accommodate the larger iPhone Fold display, and > in addition to being able to use two apps at once, the iPhone Fold apps > will also have sidebars on the left, similar to iPadOS. > > > > Though Apple is making some iPad-like updates to iOS for the iPhone Fold, > it's not going to run iPadOS and it won't support iPad apps. Apple does > plan to make APIs that will make it easy for developers to transition their > apps to an iPhone Fold layout. > > > > Pricing > > Apple's first foldable iPhone could cost nearly twice as much as the > iPhone 17 Pro Max. > > > > Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo believes that Apple's foldable iPhone will be > priced somewhere between $2,000 and $2,500, and Bloomberg's Mark Gurman has > also suggested a similar price range. UBS analysts believe Apple will price > it between $1,800 and $2,000, and Fubon Research says it will cost $2,400. > IDC believes the average selling price will be $2,500, with some models > priced at up to $3,000. > > > > The iPhone Fold will have three storage options, including 256GB, 512GB, > and 1TB. One rumor suggests that approximate pricing could be as follows: > > > > 256GB - ~$2,320 > > 512GB - ~$2,610 > > 1TB - ~$2,900 > > Launch Date > > We've heard back and forth rumors on release timing. Some rumors have > suggested the iPhone Fold will be delayed past September because of late > stage production issues, while others suggest it's on time for a September > launch. > > > > Apple could introduce the foldable iPhone in September alongside the > iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max, and then launch pre-orders at a later > date. Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo believes Apple will use the delayed launch > strategy that it used for the iPhone X in 2017. Manufacturing challenges > have apparently limited early production of the foldable device, so there > could be a delayed debut. > > > > If the iPhone Fold does launch in September alongside the iPhone 18 Pro > models, it's likely it will be in short supply. 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