On Apr 9, 2025, at 1:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
Why then do I have no issues accessing apps in the apps library? It
works entirely without issues for me and I have an iPhone 16 Pro
which I know, Richard, you have as well.
There has to be something else in play.
*From:*'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 8, 2025 4:13 PM
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*Subject:* RE: App library and accessing apps within groups which are
presented graphically and inaccessible to Voiceover
I was curious, so I just checked and Alan is correct.
The apps that are in folders in the App Library are completely
inaccessible.
I will file a report on this because while the work around does get
the job done, the App Library should be completely accessible.
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*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf
Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 8, 2025 2:56 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: App library and accessing apps within groups which are
presented graphically and inaccessible to Voiceover
Sieghard,
Although I'm not a regular user of the App library, I suspect this
issue goes all the way back to iOS 18.4. I believe I did open some
App library folders in earlier versions of iOS 18 and the opened
groups were not presented graphically on my iPhone 13 Mini and the
apps located there were still accessible to VoiceOver.
I spoke with Apple Accessibility twice today and the second person
was helpful. She told me how to delete an an installed app not
located on a home screen without the need of accessing the App
library. Go to Settings, General, iPhone Storage, and lower down the
screen the installed apps are listed in the order of the amount of
storage they use from most to least. Their is now a sort button that
gives you the option of sorting them alphabetically. When you locate
the app you want to remove, you can double tap it and a screen
offering a delete option opens.
Alan
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On Apr 8, 2025, at 3:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>
wrote:
I have an iPhone 16 Pro, but I did have an iPhone 13 Pro and
while I don’t know how far back this goes for you, I certainly
don’t recall having this I ssue with earlier versions of iOS 18
on my iPhone 13 Pro.
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On
Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 8, 2025 11:21 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: App library and accessing apps within groups which
are presented graphically and inaccessible to Voiceover
Sieghard,
Yes I'm sure screen recognition isn't on in the App library
because on my iPhone 13 Mini, screen recognition isn't even
available in my rotor on that screen. What device are you using
since you aren't experiencing the same issue I am and I suspect
the issue might be different or nonexistent for newer devices?
Thanks.
Alan
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On Apr 8, 2025, at 12:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
<siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
Are you sure you haven’t screen recognition somehow enabled
when you are in the App Library?
I have no issues reading or accessing apps from the App
Library. I actually don’t hardly ever use it, but just to be
sure I went there now and I noticed a folder called
“Information and Reading, 9 items”. I double tapped on it and
it opened up and I get apps like Audible, Books, CBC News,
ElevenReader. Also listed are Google Translate, Translate,
Merlin Bird Id, News and Stocks.
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*On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 8, 2025 8:53 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* App library and accessing apps within groups which
are presented graphically and inaccessible to Voiceover
Hello List,
I’m running iOS 18.4 on an iPhone 13 Mini and am very
concerned about results I’m getting in the App Library. I
would appreciate comments from other users about their
results and I’ll provide more details below.
As you know, the App Library is accessed as the last screen
following your last home screen. You swipe through your
various home screens by placing focus on an app on one of
them and doing a 3 finger swipe left which will advance you
to the next home screen which will be announced as some
number of a total by Voiceover depending on how many apps are
installed on your device. After you land on the final number
of your home screens, the next 3 finger swipe left will place
you on your App Library screen.
My App Library screen is a bit of a mess because I have over
300 apps installed on my device. There doesn’t seem to be any
order as to how things are presented on the App Library
screen. Some apps are listed individually and some are
presented in groups. The problem I’m experiencing is that if
the app I’m seeking is located in a group, opening that group
presents a graphical screen which is totally inaccessible to
Voiceover. I’m curious whether those with newer devices are
experiencing the same thing or not. If you could access your
App Library, find the Utilities or some other group, and
double tap to open it and let me know if you are presented
with an accessible screen or not where you can take action on
the individual apps there, I would very much appreciate it.
If you experience the same issue I am, you might find your
device inaccessible and if you have a device without a home
button, you will need to access your home screen by placing
your finger in the bottom right corner of the screen and
slide up until you hear the first tone and release which
should return you to an accessible home screen.
If anyone can recommend how to remove an app that is only
located within a group in the App Library, I would very much
appreciate it as I’m unable to access edit mode in the screen
presented graphically which is required in order to take
action on the app. I’m noticing that these graphical
presentations are starting to appear more frequently which
should concern every Voiceover user. I have already contacted
Apple Accessibility to report this and urge others to do the
same. I welcome any comments about what others are
experiencing with this and thanks in advance for your feedback.
Alan Lemly
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