Re: Jonathan Mosens take on the VoiceDream issue

[The Evil Chocolate Cookie]

The fact that they’re only reaching out now and it is because they want money is even more disgusting, and then there’s the fact they lied to us after we trusted them. From where I come from, we call that a Backstabber. Do you know what we do with Backstabber? We cut them off, and if we can’t do that, we make sure everyone else knows they’re a Backstabber. Trust is the most important thing ever and once it smashed, it’s gone.  On Mar 29, 2024, at 11:25 PM, Kerry Macdonald <kerryma...@gmail.com> wrote:  I respectfully disagree. There is a big difference on Winston’s asking us to pay 14 or $25. Then there is to these people asking us to pay 60 a year. If it were Winston charging me this money and I knew he would be receptive to my issues and suggestions I would not have so much of a problem paying although I think the amount they’re asking is ridiculous. However, my app is currently not working, I have tried everything, and no matter what I do all of a sudden during this last week I can no longer get any book share books to download. I have emailed them and have not gotten any response. This issue has occurred repeatedly over the last month, and they have not responded to my emails. The problem will Periodically go away and the App will  work fine and then it will occur again. I have gotten more help from the members of this list trying to figure out this problem, then I have gotten from the owners of this company. They have not once gotten back to me on any of my emails. It is really hard for me to think of paying them all of this money if they can’t even fix the basics. Kerry Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2024, at 9:14 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: Well, I know I did a review of five star one, quite some time ago. So maybe it got buried. I have an updated it. If these people are really starting to update with crap reviews, I suppose I’ll have to go do mine too. But I think it’s ridiculous this complaining and complaining. You were not promised a perpetually free app after you paid your 10 or whatever dollars it was. In fact, if anybody has a long enough memory, you might remember when Winston himself charged for a major upgrade. I don’t remember the circumstances, but I do definitely remember having to pay for a big upgrade. And I didn’t care. It was worth it. This might be worth it too. It certainly the best app out there if you’re a big book user.  Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2024, at 5:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:  What community are we talking about? OK, it's a rhetorical question because I know the blind/visually impaired community is being referred to. However, just because Voice Dream Reader is designed to work extremely well with Voiceover and has features for low vision users, it is not an app specifically made for blind/visually impaired users. In fact, going on the App Store and reading reviews, I didn't see a single review from a blind person. The app is also extremely useful to people with dyslexia and just anybody who wants an app which can read all sorts of files, books or articles to them as they are running, working out, driving or doing whatever. This discussion makes it sound like the new owners are traitors to the blind community or that they owe us something since they choose not  to be on the Viphone list or other Apple related lists. Just because Winston Chen decided to have a more hands-on approach, let's not demand every developer has to do this since in fact most of them don't. I don't think Amazon/Audible is subscribed to the Viphone list and neither is Microsoft or even Apple.   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2024 2:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Jonathan Mosens take on the VoiceDream issue   I’ll restate Had it been  Winston I wouldn’t have an issue.  Why not?  Winston was honest transparent and engaged with the community.  The Applause Group  does not engage with the community at all.   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2024 4:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Jonathan Mosens take on the VoiceDream issue   Dennis, You need to get your facts straight. The Applause Group bought Voice Dream LLC in April of 2023.  Applause Group never said you would never have to pay.  They said you didn’t have to pay right away. Jonathan’s take is pretty clear, this is a good business decision.  But, you are spreading false information. Boycott it if you want and use something else, but do not give wrong information.   Could they have handled it differently, probably so.   And as I have said, more than once, Winston was going to have to do the exact same thing.    Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)   My web site: https://www.turner42.com   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2024 1:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Jonathan Mosens take on the VoiceDream issue   This was published to his Mastodon feed. https://cdn.tweesecake.social/cache/media_attachments/files/112/169/061/264/221/856/original/9d17d2ddfbda31eb.mp3   -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.   If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.   Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. 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