It was a joke Kelly, I thought I had included an appropriate emoji, but maybe I 
forgot.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 12:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3

Sieghard,

No, I do not wear skinny jeans. I am a powerlifter with big legs from years of 
lifting heavy iron.  I wear basic dress pants from the military or tactical 
pants. these are roomy with extra pockets. The pockets with these pants easily 
fit an iPhone, battery charger, and a pocket speaker, if I decided to carry 
one.  What does not fit is Beats over the ear headphones. I attach the case to 
my belt with a carabiner clip. This allows me to have all the elements for a 
digital lifestyle while going hands free with no backpack or bag.

Kelly



On 8/30/22, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> wrote:
> Caroline,
>
> The iPhone 13 mini has significantly more battery life than the iPhone
> 7 or 8 and more battery life than the 12 Mini. Last year I compared 
> the 13 Mini’s battery life to that of other iPhones, as some on the 
> list were parroting technology journalists who said the 13 Mini had 
> poor battery life but gave no data to support their claims. If you are 
> concerned about battery life, buy a Slim II by Poweradd. It is a 5,000 
> mA battery that can charge an iPhone Mini two times before needing a 
> recharge.  It comes with a carrying case where I have added a 
> lightning charging cable.  I paid $11 without the cable.  The battery 
> is the size of two lighters for smoking or a thick lipstick tube. It 
> fits in most pockets.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 8/29/22, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yes, it'll only be possible on newer phones. All of the options I 
>> mentioned below will require new hardware components, including the 
>> under the glass tough ID.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:28 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> So, if Apple gets it, it will be on newer phones, not likely to be 
>> possible in an update.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:53 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> On some Android devices you do have touch ID under the glass. You 
>> also have touch ID on the back of the phone or as part of the lock 
>> button on the side of the phone.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:33 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> Is touch ID without Home Button available yet?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:17 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> I don't want to return to a home button either, but you can have 
>> touch ID without a home button. I do prefer touch ID over face ID, 
>> although not enough to keep me from getting a phone I would otherwise prefer.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 9:13 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> No, the 13 mini does not have touch ID, thank goodness, since I do 
>> not want to return to Home Button.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of [email protected]
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:30 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.
>> That would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch 
>> ID on my S E 2020.
>>
>> How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is 
>> the
>> 13
>> mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?
>> That
>> is amazing.
>>
>> Sieghard , Thanks for your information.
>>
>> James B
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder 
>> speakers I doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want 
>> good sound use your iPhone with a good headset or speaker.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>> Of [email protected]
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> Which phone has the best sound?
>>
>> James B
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights 
>> as well as IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing 
>> a Google search for "iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 
>> 2022 specifications", but let's not forget that despite the slightly 
>> smaller size of the iPhone 13 Mini it has a larger screen than the 
>> iPhone SE 2022 and it is significantly more water proof.
>> In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a 
>> quarter inch taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
>> The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly 
>> be expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 
>> 0.0138 inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
>> Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything 
>> you could ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other 
>> in your other hand.
>> Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they 
>> can't live without, but of course will have to live without in a few 
>> years after the shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be 
>> replaced and there will just not be another model with home button. 
>> As far as I am concerned I agree with Kelly and I'd take the 
>> increased water resistance and newer design with larger OLED screen 
>> of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE 2022, but then again I 
>> wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a phone in my pocket even 
>> one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even carry my iPhone 
>> 4S in my pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear a 
>> belt so a belt hip holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now 
>> those
>> specs:
>>
>> iPhone 13 mini
>> 5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
>> 131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
>> Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30
>> minutes)
>>
>> iPhone SE
>> 5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
>> 138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
>> Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30
>> minutes)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>> Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for 
>> the
>> 13
>> Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'm very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was 
>>> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an 
>>> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The 
>>> battery life is certainly much better but I've not experimented to 
>>> find out just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my 
>>> old phone, within a morning I was getting a low battery message 
>>> whereas I now very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>>>
>>> Alison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>>> Of Dennis Long
>>> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: thoughts on SE3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What are people's thoughts on the SE3  that's the one that came out 
>>> this year.  Thanks.
>>>
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