Hi, Tunein have sent me a promotional email to get me to sign up (to a service I'm already signed up to) in order to listen to every nfl game. Your guess which one is correct is as good as mine.
On 8/12/22, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > Steve, > Yes, if you go back to the original message that included the letter from > TuneIn, they will continue carrying some prime time games; but they will not > have all the teams due to the NFL contracting with other services. > > > > > > Richard > “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little > consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > >> On Aug 12, 2022, at 5:07 AM, 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> I was able to listen to Thursday nights preseason games through the Tune >> In Radio app and I am not subscribed, I only have the free version. >> >> Steve Cook, CPM >> SC Commission for the Blind >> Assistive Technology Consultant >> Newsline Administrator >> 1430 Confederate Avenue >> Columbia, SC 29201 >> Office: (803) 898-8788 >> Cell: (803) 908-3856 >> E-Mail: [email protected] >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 8:46 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [External] RE: NFL audio on the iPhone >> >> You’re right. Since I’m already subscribed to the $5 a month package, I >> can’t bring up the page I looked at when I subscribed, but now when I >> click on the subscribe button, it just gives me the option to upgrade to >> NFL Plus Premium, and there it’s pretty clear that you need Premium to >> listen to replays of games, and you’re right, that’s $10 a month. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Outlook >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Richard Turner >> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 7:11 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone >> >> Did I understand that the NFL plus package that allows rewatching games >> etc. is $9.99 but the basic plan is the $4.99 plan? >> I'm personally sticking with SiriusXM at least through my free trial that >> ends November 4. >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little >> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >> >> On Aug 11, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> OK, I signed up for the NFL Plus free trial, and things worked pretty much >> as they did the season before last season. Here’s what I did: >> I brought up the NFL app. >> I had to go into the Scores tab to get a game started. I couldn’t figure >> out how to do this from the NFL Plus tab. >> In the Scores tab, I double tapped on the game I was interested in. In >> this case, it was the Giants at Patriots. >> I then had to double tap on the Watch tab. >> Here I could double tap on the home broadcast, which was the Patriots, or >> I could double tap on the listen live options, where I could double tap on >> the away feed. >> At this point the broadcast comes up, but you won’t hear anything because >> the audio volume is set to 0. I unmuted the audio by hitting the volume up >> button. >> Now you can listen to the game but the player is totally inaccessible, so >> there’s no way to play/pause or fast forward/rewind. >> >> Like I said, this was pretty much how things worked the season before >> last. Last season, the problem was that the volume buttons wouldn’t unmute >> the audio, so there was no way for me to listen to the game unless I had a >> sighted person around who could tap on the unmute button in the >> inaccessible player. >> >> SiriusXM is a much more enjoyable way to listen to a game, but it is $12 >> instead of $5 a month. I did see the option in the Watch tab to relisten >> to a game, but I haven’t tried that yet! >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Outlook >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Dennis Long >> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 6:08 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone >> >> Some ballparks and Arena’s don’t have this problem. I used to go to >> Phillies baseball games. They had that problem until I called and >> explained that I couldn’t enjoy the game and asked them if they could >> modify it when your in the park that there is no delay. After a few years >> they called me back and said they fixed the problem. >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Kevin Minor >> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone >> >> Hi. >> >> I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought >> it would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It >> didn’t work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action and >> what was heard on commercial radio. I wasn’t sure why, but this wasn’t an >> internet stream. I heard the possible reason why this was done, and it’s >> to protect the network from the FCC. If some unwanted words were said, >> with the way things are, it can be bleeped out, thanks to that delay. It’s >> why there’s a few second delay with talk shows. >> >> This is what I remember hearing. >> >> Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard. >> >> Kevin, Valerie and Jilly >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Richard Turner >> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 1:05 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone >> >> An Explanation For the Delay In Radio Streaming >> Link to the source is at the end. >> >> We are going to try to explain the delay experienced in internet radio >> streaming. The audio can be up to five minutes behind what comes out of >> the original streaming source. For example, I hear the audio on my monitor >> speakers in my home radio studio. I turn on a mobile device, internet >> radio or Bose Wave radio in another room and the audio is about a minute >> or two or three behind what's coming from the studio audio source. We will >> try to explain a reason why. The following information was obtained from >> Quora.com. >> The most noticeable difference between a radio station's broadcast signal >> and its corresponding Internet stream or Internet only radio stations is a >> significant delay. The same program is likely to come out of your computer >> speakers as much as five minutes later than it comes out of your radio. >> Surprisingly, technology accounts for only about 5% of the lag. The other >> 95% is a result of arguments over paychecks. (Disclaimer: those numbers >> were entirely made up.) >> LATENCY: a billion little traffic jams >> When I play a song on my radio station, it zooms out to every nearby radio >> at the speed of light. But online, delivery is restricted to the speed of >> Internet — a relatively pokey journey that starts when my song gets >> converted into a package of networthy digits. That conversion takes a >> fraction of a second. Before it gets to your iPad, my song will pass >> through scores of other network devices that each hold it for additional >> fractions of seconds. And those tiny delays start to pile up. >> My favorite demonstration for guests: I can talk into my studio mic, which >> is live on the radio — then turn on an Internet feed and hear what I just >> said sixty seconds earlier. In that amount of time, my radio voice has >> gone halfway to Mars, while my Internet voice has only made a round-trip >> to Cincinnati by way of Mountain View. >> The world's most expensive machine is slower than light, and slightly >> faster than yelling. >> UNIONS: pay or don’t play >> The biggest source of audio delay has nothing to do with technology, and >> everything to do with paychecks. Traditionally, when actors were hired to >> be in a commercial, the amount of money they got paid was roughly >> proportional to the number of people the commercial was expected to reach. >> Small towns paid small fees; national ad campaigns had big budgets and >> paid the fattest fees. Voiceover artists and their agents dreamed of >> working up to big juicy global endorsements. >> Around the turn of the century, these actors had a wake-up call. Radio >> stations were starting to put their shows on the Internet. Commercials >> that had been created for single mid-sized cities were suddenly being >> played across the country. But the actors weren't getting the big >> national-spot fees their union had negotiated! Contracts were being >> violated. Lawsuits were threatened. >> And radio stations knew they had a losing hand in this game. The law said >> that the union performers were owed much more money if their voices were >> broadly distributed. And where would that money come from? No station had >> yet figured out how to make a dime out of streaming radio. >> The solution was one software upgrade away. Stations were already using >> computers to control playback of their audio. Developers created a feature >> that split the programming into two or more feeds. One would go to the >> broadcast transmitter, as always. The others would go to the Internet. And >> this new software could block the commercials that were being played on >> the radio station, instantly substituting different audio. >> SO THERE'S ROOM TO PLAY MORE MUSIC? Uh, no. >> Problem solved. Ads created by SAG-AFTRA union members stayed exclusively >> on the radio, as before. As for the empty space left behind by the >> vanishing commercials, someone suggested that it could be filled with more >> music. Internet listeners would love it, this person said, and that might >> help this new service catch on and become big. >> That person was promptly fired. >> Station owners realized that they could replace the legally questionable >> commercials with other commercials. They could sell these online >> commercials and create an entirely new stream of revenue that might have >> unlimited growth potential. Because if there's anything consumers love, >> it's more commercials. >> AND JUST HOW DOES THIS ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION? >> Oh, right. The differences between broadcast and Internet streams. Well, >> in practice, it shakes out like this: >> >> 1. The Internet commercial breaks are always longer than the >> broadcast radio breaks. It's basic math. The online commercial break can >> never be shorter than the broadcast commercial break. You don't want to >> jump back to regular programming before the regular program is there. But >> your Internet commercial break CAN run longer. Listeners won't miss >> anything. The program gets stored in a delay buffer, so it will pick up >> right where it should, even if your internet commercials ran twenty >> seconds too long. (Or if you snuck in one or two extra commercials, for >> more of that free profit.) At each break, the Internet version of your >> program slips a little further behind the broadcast version. >> >> >> From: >> https://www.edgewatergoldradio.com/blank-1/2018/07/22/An-Explanation-For-the-Delay-In-Radio-Streaming >> >> >> >> Richard >> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of >> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard >> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> 🦅 >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> [email protected]. 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