Hi,

Tunein have sent me a promotional email to get me to sign up (to a
service I'm already signed up to) in order to listen to every nfl
game.
Your guess which one is correct is as good as mine.

On 8/12/22, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
> Steve,
> Yes, if you go back to the original message that included the letter from
> TuneIn, they will continue carrying some prime time games; but they will not
> have all the teams due to the NFL contracting with other services.
>
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>
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
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>
>> On Aug 12, 2022, at 5:07 AM, 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I was able to listen to Thursday nights preseason games through the Tune
>> In Radio app and I am not subscribed, I only have the free version.
>>
>> Steve Cook, CPM
>> SC Commission for the Blind
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>> Newsline Administrator
>> 1430 Confederate Avenue
>> Columbia, SC 29201
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>>
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 8:46 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [External] RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>>
>> You’re right. Since I’m already subscribed to the $5 a month package, I
>> can’t bring up the page I looked at when I subscribed, but now when I
>> click on the subscribe button, it just gives me the option to upgrade to
>> NFL Plus Premium, and there it’s pretty clear that you need Premium to
>> listen to replays of games, and you’re right, that’s $10 a month.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 7:11 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone
>>
>> Did I understand that the NFL plus package that allows rewatching games
>> etc. is $9.99 but the basic plan is the $4.99 plan?
>> I'm personally sticking with SiriusXM at least through my free trial that
>> ends November 4.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> OK, I signed up for the NFL Plus free trial, and things worked pretty much
>> as they did the season before last season. Here’s what I did:
>> I brought up the NFL app.
>> I had to go into the Scores tab to get a game started. I couldn’t figure
>> out how to do this from the NFL Plus tab.
>> In the Scores tab, I double tapped on the game I was interested in. In
>> this case, it was the Giants at Patriots.
>> I then had to double tap on the Watch tab.
>> Here I could double tap on the home broadcast, which was the Patriots, or
>> I could double tap on the listen live options, where I could double tap on
>> the away feed.
>> At this point the broadcast comes up, but you won’t hear anything because
>> the audio volume is set to 0. I unmuted the audio by hitting the volume up
>> button.
>> Now you can listen to the game but the player is totally inaccessible, so
>> there’s no way to play/pause or fast forward/rewind.
>>
>> Like I said, this was pretty much how things worked the season before
>> last. Last season, the problem was that the volume buttons wouldn’t unmute
>> the audio, so there was no way for me to listen to the game unless I had a
>> sighted person around who could tap on the unmute button in the
>> inaccessible player.
>>
>> SiriusXM is a much more enjoyable way to listen to a game, but it is $12
>> instead of $5 a month. I did see the option in the Watch tab to relisten
>> to a game, but I haven’t tried that yet!
>>
>> --
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 6:08 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>>
>> Some ballparks and Arena’s don’t have this problem.  I used to go to
>> Phillies baseball games.  They had that problem until I called and
>> explained that I couldn’t enjoy the game and asked them if they could
>> modify it when your in the park that there is no delay.  After a few years
>> they called me back and said they fixed the problem.
>>
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Kevin Minor
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought
>> it would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It
>> didn’t work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action and
>> what was heard on commercial radio. I wasn’t sure why, but this wasn’t an
>> internet stream. I heard the possible reason why this was done, and it’s
>> to protect the network from the FCC. If some unwanted words were said,
>> with the way things are, it can be bleeped out, thanks to that delay. It’s
>> why there’s a few second delay with talk shows.
>>
>> This is what I remember hearing.
>>
>> Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.
>>
>> Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
>>
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 1:05 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>>
>> An Explanation For the Delay In Radio Streaming
>> Link to the source is at the end.
>>
>> We are going to try to explain the delay experienced in internet radio
>> streaming. The audio can be up to five minutes behind what comes out of
>> the original streaming source. For example, I hear the audio on my monitor
>> speakers in my home radio studio. I turn on a mobile device, internet
>> radio or Bose Wave radio in another room and the audio is about a minute
>> or two or three behind what's coming from the studio audio source. We will
>> try to explain a reason why. The following information was obtained from
>> Quora.com.
>> The most noticeable difference between a radio station's broadcast signal
>> and its corresponding Internet stream or Internet only radio stations is a
>> significant delay. The same program is likely to come out of your computer
>> speakers as much as five minutes later than it comes out of your radio.
>> Surprisingly, technology accounts for only about 5% of the lag. The other
>> 95% is a result of arguments over paychecks. (Disclaimer: those numbers
>> were entirely made up.)
>> LATENCY: a billion little traffic jams
>> When I play a song on my radio station, it zooms out to every nearby radio
>> at the speed of light. But online, delivery is restricted to the speed of
>> Internet — a relatively pokey journey that starts when my song gets
>> converted into a package of networthy digits. That conversion takes a
>> fraction of a second. Before it gets to your iPad, my song will pass
>> through scores of other network devices that each hold it for additional
>> fractions of seconds. And those tiny delays start to pile up.
>> My favorite demonstration for guests: I can talk into my studio mic, which
>> is live on the radio — then turn on an Internet feed and hear what I just
>> said sixty seconds earlier. In that amount of time, my radio voice has
>> gone halfway to Mars, while my Internet voice has only made a round-trip
>> to Cincinnati by way of Mountain View.
>> The world's most expensive machine is slower than light, and slightly
>> faster than yelling.
>> UNIONS: pay or don’t play
>> The biggest source of audio delay has nothing to do with technology, and
>> everything to do with paychecks. Traditionally, when actors were hired to
>> be in a commercial, the amount of money they got paid was roughly
>> proportional to the number of people the commercial was expected to reach.
>> Small towns paid small fees; national ad campaigns had big budgets and
>> paid the fattest fees. Voiceover artists and their agents dreamed of
>> working up to big juicy global endorsements.
>> Around the turn of the century, these actors had a wake-up call. Radio
>> stations were starting to put their shows on the Internet. Commercials
>> that had been created for single mid-sized cities were suddenly being
>> played across the country. But the actors weren't getting the big
>> national-spot fees their union had negotiated! Contracts were being
>> violated. Lawsuits were threatened.
>> And radio stations knew they had a losing hand in this game. The law said
>> that the union performers were owed much more money if their voices were
>> broadly distributed. And where would that money come from? No station had
>> yet figured out how to make a dime out of streaming radio.
>> The solution was one software upgrade away. Stations were already using
>> computers to control playback of their audio. Developers created a feature
>> that split the programming into two or more feeds. One would go to the
>> broadcast transmitter, as always. The others would go to the Internet. And
>> this new software could block the commercials that were being played on
>> the radio station, instantly substituting different audio.
>> SO THERE'S ROOM TO PLAY MORE MUSIC? Uh, no.
>> Problem solved. Ads created by SAG-AFTRA union members stayed exclusively
>> on the radio, as before. As for the empty space left behind by the
>> vanishing commercials, someone suggested that it could be filled with more
>> music. Internet listeners would love it, this person said, and that might
>> help this new service catch on and become big.
>> That person was promptly fired.
>> Station owners realized that they could replace the legally questionable
>> commercials with other commercials. They could sell these online
>> commercials and create an entirely new stream of revenue that might have
>> unlimited growth potential. Because if there's anything consumers love,
>> it's more commercials.
>> AND JUST HOW DOES THIS ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION?
>> Oh, right. The differences between broadcast and Internet streams. Well,
>> in practice, it shakes out like this:
>>
>> 1.      The Internet commercial breaks are always longer than the
>> broadcast radio breaks. It's basic math. The online commercial break can
>> never be shorter than the broadcast commercial break. You don't want to
>> jump back to regular programming before the regular program is there. But
>> your Internet commercial break CAN run longer. Listeners won't miss
>> anything. The program gets stored in a delay buffer, so it will pick up
>> right where it should, even if your internet commercials ran twenty
>> seconds too long. (Or if you snuck in one or two extra commercials, for
>> more of that free profit.) At each break, the Internet version of your
>> program slips a little further behind the broadcast version.
>>
>>
>> From:
>> https://www.edgewatergoldradio.com/blank-1/2018/07/22/An-Explanation-For-the-Delay-In-Radio-Streaming
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
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>>
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