I wasn't referring to Christopher himself, and I'm sorry if I implied
that. It was meant to be a general statement.
Maria Campbell
[email protected]
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 5:29 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Christopher,
You have nothing to apologize for.
Your previous statement did not minimize issues others were having.
You made an I statement.
You also pointed out each person has to evaluate the level of
inconvenience or lack of functionality for themselves.
Some people interpret I statements as if you said everyone should feel
this way.
I’ve gotten that response too when I made clear I statements.
Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
with it.” – Jane Wagner
My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com>
*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf
Of *Christopher Chaltain
*Sent:* Saturday, October 2, 2021 1:58 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in
a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
Sorry, I realize I don’t do the same things on my phone that someone
else does, so I never meant to minimize the issues anyone else was
having that I wasn’t seeing myself. I wish I’d taken the time to state
that in my post.
I remember the horrible bugs I faced with an earlier version of IOS
where I basically had to restart my phone every time I hung up on a
phone call or restart VoiceOver every time I replied to an email
message, and how frustrating it was to have people dismiss those
issues because they weren’t seeing it themselves. I ended up giving
Android a try because those bugs were so frustrating and it took six
months to get one fixed and two years before the other was addressed.
That being said, I do think people need to look at the bugs in a new
version of IOS and how they use their phone to see how much they’ll be
impacted by those bugs. They’ll also need to weigh this against the
new features they may also be able to take advantage of in a new
version of IOS.
--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook
*From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> *On
Behalf Of *Maria Campbell
*Sent:* Saturday, October 2, 2021 3:32 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in
a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
Obviously, one size does not fit all. Many of us did in fact find
annoying bugs in 15. That annoying haptic on no items discovered was
terrible, and my hey Siri doesn't work on the locked phone, which
isn't a biggy, but not a problem before. And, all the phrases removed
from hey Siri might be a big problem to people with typing issues.
Please stop minimizing the problems of some just because they don't
affect you.
Maria Campbell
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
On 10/2/2021 4:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I can’t’ think of any significant bugs I’ve encountered in IOS 15.
In addition, you also have to weigh how much a particular bug may
impact you against any new features you want to take advantage of
in IOS 15.
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Chaltain at Outlook
*From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> *On
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Saturday, October 2, 2021 12:17 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* I find iOS 15 to be one of the least buggy upgrades in
a long time, what are the more significant bugs you still experience?
The subject sort of says it. I am curious to hear what major bugs
people are dealing with because I sometimes see statements like
"iOS is a mess" and "I won't upgrade until some of the bugs have
been resolved" etc.
I would encourage people also mention what device they use, my
current phone is an iPhone 11. Please furthermore be specific
instead of saying something "I don't like the new Focus feature"
since that of course is not a bug but a new feature and there will
always be things maybe one would wish had stayed as it was.
Also, before you mention the issue where Voiceover doesn't
sometimes say the name of an app in the app switcher when you
flick left, try the fix I read about and posted: go to Settings >
Accessibility > Motion and turn of Reduce Motion.
If somebody knows of a good reason why Reduce Motion should be on
I'd like to hear it and while I don't necessarily disagree that
Voiceover should read the app names even with this turned on,
turning it off is a fix/work-around for now especially if it
doesn't have any other consequences.
Another issue which was mentioned when Applevis released their
warning prior to the iOS 15 release about the bugs they
experienced or heard about is the one where the Wallet app crashes
when you flick through your cards/passes. I am very curious to
hear how many people have this problem. As I said above, I use an
iPhone 11 and this has never happened to me and I tried it also by
turning on Voiceover on my wife's iPhone 11 Pro and it also works
fine.
Next is the share sheet, once again no issues whatsoever for me,
but apparently some people say they are having problems.
Lastly, one problem I do come across is that Voiceover
mispronounces certain things, here are two sample phrases which
contain the name of the Canadian province where I live:
The British Columbia government says it's making progress...
British Columbia Buy and Sell
It's almost like Voiceover is saying "The B A R British Columbia",
difficult to exactly make it out and of course if you go word by
word it says each word correctly.
I should mention that I use the North American SIRI female voice
and also have the SIRI male voice installed, I haven't installed
Samantha to test this, but it was not pronounced like this in iOS
14 where I used the same voices.
Best regards,
Sieghard
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