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> On Nov 12, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Wayne Merritt <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I don't recall the specific video. I think it was one he did around
> the launch of the iPhone 12 and 12 Pro sometime in October.
> 
> Best,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 11/12/20, Ignacio Suarez <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Which video specifically of Rene are you talking about?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Wayne Merritt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. I'm going to try and repeat something here which is a little
>>> technical. I don't know any more about this than what I heard, so
>>> those who know more, please pardon any errors I may make in the
>>> retelling.
>>> I watched a YouTube video recently from Rene Ritchie, a technology
>>> reviewer, podcaster and YouTube video producer on the iPhone 12
>>> series. In short, he said that product design cycles are made several
>>> years in advance. In other words, what we saw in this year's phones
>>> was initially conceived about 2 years or more ago. In that case, it
>>> makes sense why this year's iPhones would not have a combination
>>> Face/touch ID feature. In 2018, who could have known of the worldwide
>>> crisis we now find ourselves in, and how valuable and useful such a
>>> phone would be? Rene proposed that the phone with both Face and touch
>>> ID was conceived and started in the design process in 2018, so it
>>> makes sense that it would be ready in 2021. This would also align with
>>> other rumors and patents on the issue. Again, this is all one person's
>>> speculation, but if you consider the point he raises, it makes a lot
>>> of sense. If you want to know more of his views and thoughts, search
>>> for Rene Ritchie on YouTube and I'm sure his channel will come up.
>>> Also, for what it's worth, I've heard Rene speak highly of
>>> accessibility in general and for the blind in particular.
>>> 
>>> Be well,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> 
>>>> On 11/11/20, Matthew Bullis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hello, I am about to get my first phone with face id, and am fairly
>>>> confident about it. I understand that you can set a second face id
>>>> profile.
>>>> Will it accept that profile if you are wearing a mask? Have you tried
>>>> that
>>>> yet? I also wonder if one of the options for the backtap setting in
>>>> voiceover commands could be set to a series of digits? This way you
>>>> could
>>>> tap twice or three times and it could enter your passcode. That's a
>>>> slight
>>>> security risk, but if you're the only one using your phone, and you
>>>> don't
>>>> let it out of your hands, perhaps it could work. I can't check this yet,
>>>> and
>>>> didn't hear anything about it, but it's an idea I had.
>>>> Matthew
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 4:01 PM, janet gross <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> Well, Talking about face id, just my personal opinion, lately face id is
>>>> not
>>>> as secure as I would like.  For the simple fact, Face id doesn't work
>>>> with a
>>>> face mask.  So when I'm in the store, and using my phone to pull up my
>>>> grocery list, I have to enter my six digit security code, and a shopper
>>>> from
>>>> the store is right there listening, as well as other customers.  Well, I
>>>> gave up on using Apple pay for the very same reason face id doesn't work
>>>> either.  This isn't a good security system.  Oh sure I can use my
>>>> Bluetooth
>>>> head phones, but then I can't hear the scanner telling me the price of
>>>> my
>>>> groceries, so I know I'm not being over charged.  There are also other
>>>> times
>>>> when I might need to unlock my phone as well.  So the only time face id
>>>> works for me is when I'm home, and I don't wear a mask in my house.
>>>> Apple
>>>> really should have done something about the face id and wearing face
>>>> maskes.
>>>> 
>>>> This is not  good security!  LOL!
>>>> I would much prefer touch id as opposed to face id!   I think right now,
>>>> touch id is much more secure!  Maybe we need to go back in time!  Smile!
>>>> Janet
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:18 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: RE: Face I.D
>>>> 
>>>> No reason why one form of security wont work,
>>>> 
>>>> Just remember though that more people have success with face id  than
>>>> don't
>>>> on phones that require face id.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2020 1:07 am
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Face I.D
>>>> 
>>>> When I get a new iPhone, I'm not going to use face ID at all, just a
>>>> passcode.  I was talking to someone recently at apple accessibility and
>>>> they
>>>> told me, that I have a choice whether to use face ID at all.
>>>> This was something I didn't know about.  I have the choice of using face
>>>> ID,
>>>> using a passcode, or turning off all security together where my iPhone
>>>> wouldn't lock at all.  I would never turn off security all together, so
>>>> when
>>>> I get a new iPhone, I'm not going to enable face ID, but just use a
>>>> passcode
>>>> to unlock my iPhone.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/11/20, ליאל בן סימון <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Less, i use Face ID al the time. I put the midel on my nose and far
>>>>> away from my face, i uses an iPhone XS for 2 years and don’t faceing
>>>>> provlem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ‫ב-11 בנוב׳ 2020, בשעה 11:37, ‏‏Les Kriegler ‏<[email protected]>
>>>>>> כתב/ה:‬
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> Okay, I have had my new iPhone for about 3 and a half weeks. More
>>>>>> often than not, I cannot get Face I.D to work. Sometimes it works
>>>>>> when I do not expect it to do so, other times, it’s just the
>>>>>> opposite. I cannot consistently create situations where I can
>>>>>> identify what my issue is with this feature. I have had a few
>>>>>> discussions with Apple Accessibility. I have removed and reset up
>>>>>> Face ID, I even removed my app settings before setting up Face I.D.
>>>>>> The problem persists. So my questions are these. For those of you
>>>>>> using Face I.D, on a percentage basis, how often would you say that
>>>>>> Face I.D works for you. Second question, if it works the majority of
>>>>>> the time, what method did you use to bring this about? Thanks for the
>>>>>> assist on this one.
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Les
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