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> On Nov 12, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Wayne Merritt <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't recall the specific video. I think it was one he did around > the launch of the iPhone 12 and 12 Pro sometime in October. > > Best, > Wayne Merritt > >> On 11/12/20, Ignacio Suarez <[email protected]> wrote: >> Which video specifically of Rene are you talking about? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Wayne Merritt <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi. I'm going to try and repeat something here which is a little >>> technical. I don't know any more about this than what I heard, so >>> those who know more, please pardon any errors I may make in the >>> retelling. >>> I watched a YouTube video recently from Rene Ritchie, a technology >>> reviewer, podcaster and YouTube video producer on the iPhone 12 >>> series. In short, he said that product design cycles are made several >>> years in advance. In other words, what we saw in this year's phones >>> was initially conceived about 2 years or more ago. In that case, it >>> makes sense why this year's iPhones would not have a combination >>> Face/touch ID feature. In 2018, who could have known of the worldwide >>> crisis we now find ourselves in, and how valuable and useful such a >>> phone would be? Rene proposed that the phone with both Face and touch >>> ID was conceived and started in the design process in 2018, so it >>> makes sense that it would be ready in 2021. This would also align with >>> other rumors and patents on the issue. Again, this is all one person's >>> speculation, but if you consider the point he raises, it makes a lot >>> of sense. If you want to know more of his views and thoughts, search >>> for Rene Ritchie on YouTube and I'm sure his channel will come up. >>> Also, for what it's worth, I've heard Rene speak highly of >>> accessibility in general and for the blind in particular. >>> >>> Be well, >>> Wayne Merritt >>> >>>> On 11/11/20, Matthew Bullis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hello, I am about to get my first phone with face id, and am fairly >>>> confident about it. I understand that you can set a second face id >>>> profile. >>>> Will it accept that profile if you are wearing a mask? Have you tried >>>> that >>>> yet? I also wonder if one of the options for the backtap setting in >>>> voiceover commands could be set to a series of digits? This way you >>>> could >>>> tap twice or three times and it could enter your passcode. That's a >>>> slight >>>> security risk, but if you're the only one using your phone, and you >>>> don't >>>> let it out of your hands, perhaps it could work. I can't check this yet, >>>> and >>>> didn't hear anything about it, but it's an idea I had. >>>> Matthew >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 4:01 PM, janet gross <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> Well, Talking about face id, just my personal opinion, lately face id is >>>> not >>>> as secure as I would like. For the simple fact, Face id doesn't work >>>> with a >>>> face mask. So when I'm in the store, and using my phone to pull up my >>>> grocery list, I have to enter my six digit security code, and a shopper >>>> from >>>> the store is right there listening, as well as other customers. Well, I >>>> gave up on using Apple pay for the very same reason face id doesn't work >>>> either. This isn't a good security system. Oh sure I can use my >>>> Bluetooth >>>> head phones, but then I can't hear the scanner telling me the price of >>>> my >>>> groceries, so I know I'm not being over charged. There are also other >>>> times >>>> when I might need to unlock my phone as well. So the only time face id >>>> works for me is when I'm home, and I don't wear a mask in my house. >>>> Apple >>>> really should have done something about the face id and wearing face >>>> maskes. >>>> >>>> This is not good security! LOL! >>>> I would much prefer touch id as opposed to face id! I think right now, >>>> touch id is much more secure! Maybe we need to go back in time! Smile! >>>> Janet >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Simon A Fogarty >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 4:18 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: Face I.D >>>> >>>> No reason why one form of security wont work, >>>> >>>> Just remember though that more people have success with face id than >>>> don't >>>> on phones that require face id. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>> Joshua Hendrickson >>>> Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2020 1:07 am >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Face I.D >>>> >>>> When I get a new iPhone, I'm not going to use face ID at all, just a >>>> passcode. I was talking to someone recently at apple accessibility and >>>> they >>>> told me, that I have a choice whether to use face ID at all. >>>> This was something I didn't know about. I have the choice of using face >>>> ID, >>>> using a passcode, or turning off all security together where my iPhone >>>> wouldn't lock at all. I would never turn off security all together, so >>>> when >>>> I get a new iPhone, I'm not going to enable face ID, but just use a >>>> passcode >>>> to unlock my iPhone. >>>> >>>>> On 11/11/20, ליאל בן סימון <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi Less, i use Face ID al the time. I put the midel on my nose and far >>>>> away from my face, i uses an iPhone XS for 2 years and don’t faceing >>>>> provlem. >>>>> >>>>> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי >>>>> >>>>>> ב-11 בנוב׳ 2020, בשעה 11:37, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> >>>>>> כתב/ה: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> Okay, I have had my new iPhone for about 3 and a half weeks. More >>>>>> often than not, I cannot get Face I.D to work. Sometimes it works >>>>>> when I do not expect it to do so, other times, it’s just the >>>>>> opposite. I cannot consistently create situations where I can >>>>>> identify what my issue is with this feature. I have had a few >>>>>> discussions with Apple Accessibility. I have removed and reset up >>>>>> Face ID, I even removed my app settings before setting up Face I.D. >>>>>> The problem persists. So my questions are these. For those of you >>>>>> using Face I.D, on a percentage basis, how often would you say that >>>>>> Face I.D works for you. Second question, if it works the majority of >>>>>> the time, what method did you use to bring this about? Thanks for the >>>>>> assist on this one. >>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Les >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>>>>> iPhone list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>> itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>> [email protected]. 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