* selecting text, VO Gesture, use Text Selection on the rotor, Light Dependent 
Gesture, Long press 1 finger on a word, lift the finger and they will see a 
word highlighted, with a ball with a pin sticking up on the left of the word 
and a ball with a pin sticking down on the right side of the word, with the 
options, copy, lookup, or share.  If they want to select more text, touch one 
of the balls and drag their finger in the direction of the pin and when they 
have selected what they want, lift their finger and the copy, lookup, or share 
options will appear.  tap the one they want and go from there.
HTH,



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 10:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Cheat-Sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

How about selecting text, then getting to edit, with its various features such  
as copy and paste? I have had sighted people tell me they thought it was 
amazing I could do those things on the iphone. I said I was sure they could do 
it, too, but I didn't know what their gestures were.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Oct 2, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Richard Turner 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Thanks for asking.
I’ve added that to my list.
* VO Gesture to delete a reminder, and many other items, 1-finger flick down, 
Light Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe from right to left
Pretty much if with VO it is a flick down to bring up delete, it will be a 
1-finger swipe right to left.

HTH,




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 4:32 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Cheat-Sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users


Hi,

so timely you post this and thank you for it. It is a great complement to the 
message someone else posted a while back describing what many of the icons look 
like.

Just yesterday a sighted friend was trying to delete a reminder for instance 
and I knew how we did it but couldn't translate it to him. Eventually I think 
he said something about swiping right or left on it I can't recall which that's 
the only gesture I'd be curious to have added to the list.

thanks for this.

Take good care.

Robin


On 10/1/2020 6:37 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Cheat sheet for helping light dependent iPhone users

* VO Gesture for answering the phone, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent 
gesture, 1 finger slide left to right, or tap on the answer button.

* VO Gesture to end a call, 2-finger double tap, Light dependent gesture, tap 
the end call button.

* VO Gesture to scroll the screen sideways, 3-finger swipe sideways, Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger swipe sideways.

* VO Gesture to scroll screen up or down, 3-finger swipe up or down,  Light 
Dependent Gesture, 1-finger slide up or down.

* VO Gesture for context menu, either double tap and hold, or a 1-finger triple 
tap, Light Dependent gesture, 1-finger long press.

This is a start anyway.






Richard
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