Hi Les,
Well, if the + type SE actually comes out, I think that would be extremely 
tempting. I do not care about 5G. I really don’t at this point. I think it’s a 
lot of hype. And I get decent LTE out here on T-Mobile. I am right around 100 
Mbps download. I’ll take that.


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> On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> It’s nice to hear from you. I hope you are doing well. Yes, that’s what I 
> suspected. I’ll have to make a decision but I’d like to get a phone with 5G 
> capability. We shall see when the time comes. The SC is tempting, I must say. 
> I’ve heard so many good things about that phone, I am tempted to get one of 
> those.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mary 
> Otten <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 1:54:10 PM
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Mark on iOS14, iPadOS14, and Scene Descriptions
>  
> Hi Les,
> I’m not Mark, but yes. If you get an iPhone 12, you will be dealing with face 
> ID. You could always decide to get an SE 2020. Or if that rumored SE plus 
> comes out, you would have the same form factor as an 8+, with a better 
> battery, and presumably a home button. Ased for a book, I’m not sure what to 
> recommend. The biggest thing is the gestures, because there’s no home button. 
> And you don’t really need a whole book for that. Maybe it’s even describe 
> somewhere on AppleVis.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Mark and Aul,
> > 
> > Mark, thanks for your review and comments on iOS 14. Is that will be 
> > purchasing new iPhones from my wife and I when they become available, I am 
> > not gonna upgrade my current model. I do have a couple of questions, 
> > however. Will I be using face recognition on the iPhone 12? I’m guessing I 
> > would be. Are there any resources or books that you were anybody can 
> > recommend as I prepare to go from the 8+ to the iPhone 12. Thanks in 
> > advance for any assistance.
> > Best regards,
> > Les
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Sep 18, 2020, at 12:01 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hello Family,
> >> 
> >> 1.
> >> I installed iPad OS 14 on my 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 tablet.
> >> 
> >> Several of the new features of iPad OS 14 are not available on this model.
> >> However, the VoiceOver Scene Description feature is available, albeit a
> >> scaled-down version, and was set to on, by default.  This feature drove me
> >> crazy because it kept saying something like "triangle or diagonal" almost
> >> all the time when viewing items in a list.  It took me what seemed like
> >> forever to find where this feature was located in the OS.  I found the
> >> setting under VoiceOver Verbosity.  I turned the feature to off but doing 
> >> so
> >> did not disable the feature until after a restart of the device.
> >> 
> >> 2.
> >> I installed iOS14 on an iPhone 11.  Strangely enough, all of the scene
> >> descriptions were set to off, by default.
> >> 
> >> 3.
> >> My primary device is my beloved iPhone 8 Plus.  The 8 Plus has been on the
> >> market for quite a while and, as happens to all devices, sooner or later,
> >> installing the latest OS begins to slow down the responsiveness of the
> >> phone.  So, I am not going to install iOS14 on my 8 Plus until after 
> >> hearing
> >> from various people on this list, that doing so will not cause my 8 Plus to
> >> slow down.  I am also not going to install 14 on my 8 Plus because I am
> >> planning on purchasing an iPhone 12 when it is released; assuming that it
> >> ships with a Touch ID sensor, as I strongly suspect that it will.  If the
> >> iPhone 12 does not include a Touch ID sensor, then I will try to hold out
> >> for another year in hopes that Apple will bring the hardware feature back 
> >> on
> >> a later model.
> >> 
> >> 4.
> >> Finally, my beloved Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus has an in-display Touch ID
> >> sensor / Home button.  I am hoping that Apple will include the same or
> >> similar feature on iPhone 12.  However, given the way that they have
> >> implemented the new Touch ID on its latest releases of iPAds, all bets are
> >> off.  Just have to wait and see.
> >> 
> >> 5.
> >> I would like to host another Zoom group discussion this Sunday so we can
> >> talk about all of the new Apple software and hardware features and devices.
> >> If I can manage it, I will send out a notice early Sunday morning.
> >> 
> >> I hope you are all doing well.
> >> 
> >> Mark
> >> 
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