Thanks for the tip on the Bible from YouVersion. It’s easy to navigate and accessible with VoiceOver. Some Bibles also have an audio option.
-- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 6:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Amazon Kindle books You can use the VoiceOver rotor to easily move by word, character and line. Touch on the page to get near where you want to be and then turn the rotor to the unit of movement. Then, simply flick up and down to move backward and forward through the page. I wrote all about that in my guide. There are books which VoiceOver can't support because they're too image intensive. I suspect they may be scanned images of pages. Apple Books have some similar issues with some books. However, in both cases, books available are overwelmingly accessible and easy to read provided you know the basics of VoiceOver including the rotor and how it works. As to the bible, I think you're much better served getting a separate bible app. I prefer the Word of Promise bible app. It combines a fully dramatized version of the New King James bible with a splendidly accessible text copy which is easy to use and jump around in quickly. The last time I checked, the Youversion bible app was also very accessible offerring a wide range of bibles. I have a vague memory of stumbling on another accessible bible app which might have been called the Master Touch Bible or Audio Bible. It was supposed to be especially accessible as well. Voice choice gets into very subjective territory. I happen to like Alex and think he's well worth is bulky size. However, I also like the female US and British Siri voices, the Irish male Siri voice, the older Australian Peter and Karen enhanced voices. All of these can be put in the proper language slots in the rotor. I look forward to iOS14 since this should let more Siri voices make use of the artificial intelligence on your device to generate themselves on the fly. These will speak longer sentences more naturally. Presumably, VoiceOver would be able to make use of these rather than the copies currently available. That should save a bunch of storage space and perhaps even make me consider ditching Alex after years of faithful if artificially breathy service. On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:32 PM <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I must be missing something, but I can use the roter and VoiceOver to navigate around a page by character, word and line. David Andrews has a question mark at the end of the statement, so I don't know if he stating that Kindle has never been good at navigation or if he's asking a question about it. The ability to navigate around a book is also dependent on the book itself and this may not have anything to do with accessibility and the screen reader you're using. I was looking for a good bible to read with the Kindle app, and a lot of the reviews complained about the navigation of the various options, and in checking out the different samples, I could see exactly what the reviewer was talking about. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf > Of doug parisian > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 4:20 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Amazon Kindle books > > I strongly agree with David Andrews assessment of the IOS Kindle App. Unlike > my > windows version, there seems no way to move through smaller units than a > page, like lines, words, and characters. It is therefore impossible using > the IOS > version to look up specific words, check the spelling of unfamiliar words or > names. I can do all the above using the windows app with NVDA. The choices of > desired voices has nothing to do with the IOS kindle app. > > > and truthfully unrelated but I need to say it, the Alex voice is way beyond > annoying with that fake contrived gasping--way beyond awful! > > > On 2020-06-26 11:13 a.m., David Andrews wrote: > > What format are they in? Kindle has never been very good at navigation? > > > > Dave > > > > At 10:34 AM 6/26/2020, [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > >> Good morning, > >> I need some advice on the best and most effective way of reading > >> Amazon Kindle books. I need to read a particular book that is in > >> Kindle. I don't know if it's best to try on the computer with JAWS > >> or on the iPhone. If so, what programs or apps work best? I've not > >> tried it with JAWS, and the Kindle app reads some of the book, but I > >> am having some issues navigating. > >> It's my first day though. > >> Any good recommendations are appreciated. > >> Jim > > > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel > that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> . 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