It doesn't work with a Microsoft outlook account.
Maybe just gmail.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 13, 2020, at 4:44 PM, deidre muccio <[email protected]> wrote:

So, when rereading this message before replying when it came to the end of 
reading me my message it said expand tool bar and that was a button so there 
are different places where that button to expand the tool bar or shrink it 
appear and that is what I’m calling hiding or in hiding those items. I hope you 
can find it or hear it so that you can get to it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 13, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:

Glad to hear things are better.
I have one question about what you said, "A few things I found out is that a 3 
finger swipe to the right will hide the options like insert photo, format, etc 
where they appear just above the keyboard. You probably have to be at the first 
item which I think is format to do this since you are swiping to the right.

Is this in Emails?

I cannot get this to work at all.
Swiping with three fingers just makes the sound that means you cannot swipe 
further in that direction.

Thanks,



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 2:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: all is well

Hello all

Since most of you probably witnessed my perplexing horror over having
a near totally unusable new SE phone, I can say that all has been
resolved. A tentative hardware issue was ruled out by a cursory test
by Yes Computers here in town, and AA said they did not take phones
back unless visibly cracked, etc, I was told to restore the phone and
set it up as new once more. I did this 4 or so days ago, and immediately 
noticed a change.
 I wonder why restoring the phone to it's factory default did not
occur to me earlier, or was not suggested on any of the calls I made to AA.
No problem though, I feel lucky to have them there on call, even if
the wait times are often over ten minutes.
I spoke with a tech specialist/supervisor who tested all the things I
still had questions about using her own phone with gmail, voice over,
messages, and Facebook, and this sped the process along. Rather than
screen sharing, since I was very familiar with settings and the
specific nature of problems I was having, she tested functions and was
able to say that this was a still existing bug, or that she had the
same result, so that was affirming. The call had been scheduled in
advance so she was prepared to deal with the phone before resetting
it, and she was gracious enough to  spend the time to clarify those few 
remaining questions I had.
A few things I found out is that a 3 finger swipe to the right will
hide the options like insert photo, format, etc where they appear just
above the keyboard. You probably have to be at the first item which I
think is format to do this since you are swiping to the right. To
unhide them you would swipe left from the last item. This used to
drive me crazy and it seemed that with these new options visible above
the keypad/keyboard, I had to be far more precise about where I
touched on the screen before one or another of these options interrupted my 
carrying on with typing.
As for the predictive text and auto correct being turned off, well,
there is no way to get rid of them altogether. The problem is that
while either typing or dictating for instance, the words put in are
rarely what I want, so that still involves having to edit out the unwanted 
words.
Finally, my settings are tweaked right now so that I have no pitch
changes that do not involve things like capital letters or language changes.
As for the roter not staying where you last left it, such as in
messages, that has been well documented, and maybe the overall
function of the roter will be better sometime down the line. It's
predictable I think in that it moves to the previous item so if you
want to wind up back on character or word rather than something else,
then make sure you check the order in which things have been selected in the 
roter.
Overall the new phone may serve me well over time, but I still prefer
the lighter feel and slimmer thickness of the older models of phones
and I still prefer a mechanical home button. Having no home button
might not be so hard for me to navigate so if I need another phone at
some point, I might look for a phone without any home button at all,
meaning one that has nothing differentiated by any perceptible tactile outline.
 Contrary to what some others have said, I don't find this phone
particularly fast or responsive, especially around touching the home
button to get back to the home screen or to use Siri, but what the
heck. I'm done fretting. I've got 2 working phones so unless both act
up at the same time, at least I will have a backup. Much of my data
for Apps like Voice Dream Writer and I can't think what else now, is
on my old 6 which is pretty much defunct since the battery won't hold
a charge for long. Everything came over via gmail like Notes and contacts and 
mail and messages so that is good.
One new plus is that in years past ear buds and earphones gave me pain
in my ears. I can now use the earbuds with my phone when moving about
outdoors and I can withstand doing that for up to half an hour before
my inner ear starts to hurt. I've avoided using any wired or bluetooth
ear piece for that reason but at least I can now be hands free of the
phone when necessary for short periods of time at least. If I need to
take a call when walking down the street, if I choose to do that, it's
much easier hitting the button on the earpiece than it is having to dig the 
phone out of wherever it is.
The last of what needs setting up is the Bluetooth keyboard. It is
still not paired with either of my phones. Each time I see someone
it's not a good time to ask them to look at it, make sure the
batteries are in right, a light is on, and to tell me what those two buttons on 
the far right say.
All this might be the only instance in which I could say that I'm
content with the "new normal."

Deidre









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