I get some kind of stuff about speak screen too that is in my way, especially 
when entering access code or when entering a phone number. Whatever it is, I 
think I'd be as well off with tit disabled. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 7:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The message 
window

no.

Dave.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 12:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The message 
window

Can the  scroll bar be disabled?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Shirley 
Baker
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 12:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The message 
window

Can you give me a little more instructions about finding a certain email using 
the scroll bar because this is what I would probably use it for. This does make 
sense but I just want a little more help in understanding about finding say a 
certain email.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Nicola Sanders 
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Shirley,
> Sure, I'll give it a try. I've edited the subject line to reflect the 
> shift in topic. I'll explain how the scroll bar works and give a 
> couple of examples of how I use it.
> As you know, the vertical scroll bar is a very narrow strip running 
> down the right-hand edge of the screen. If you are at the top of a 
> list (or a document, a webpage or whatever), when you touch the 
> vertical scroll bar, VoiceOver will say "vertical scroll bar, 0%". 
> When you swipe down on the scroll bar with one finger, it moves you 
> down through the list in increments of 10%; so however long your list 
> or page may be, you can get from top to bottom with just ten 
> one-finger swipes. The alternative would be to swipe up using three 
> fingers, but that gesture moves you in far smaller increments, just a 
> screen at a time, and so it takes a lot longer to move through the list and 
> locate what you're looking for.
> One example where I find this useful is a TV app in the UK, called Sky+. 
> In the TV guide section there are hundreds of channels, numbered 1 to 
> 999, with a few gaps in the numbering. Supposing I'm I want to read 
> the channels starting from number 500 onwards: I touch the vertical 
> scroll bar and swipe down to around 50%, and I know I won't be far 
> off. I touch the middle of the screen to read one of the channel 
> numbers currently displayed, and I can then use the three-finger swipe 
> up or down to find the exact location. If I were to do a three-finger 
> swipe through the whole list, it would take me far longer, as each 
> screen only consists of around six channels. Also, I don't find it 
> that easy to use that gesture repeatedly and very fast, and I'm 
> inclined to lose focus and have to tap the middle of the screen before 
> continuing. There are no such problems with the vertical scroll bar.
> I also find it useful when navigating through my email inbox. I have 
> far too many messages in there and am in the process of cleaning them up.
> Obviously I can search for a specific message, but I may just want to 
> look at the emails that I received around a certain time. Again, the 
> three-finger swipe would take ages.
> I often use the scroll bar to find my place in a long document or 
> newspaper article if I get interrupted. I use it with large web pages 
> as well, as it can often be difficult to navigate through the whole 
> page by headings. In many situations I can do a three-finger tap on 
> the middle of the screen to hear roughly where I am, e.g. "rows 35 to 
> 41 of 72"; next time I want to find that location, I use the scroll 
> bar to go to 50%, and I know I won't be far out.
> Note that the scroll bar works in the opposite direction to the 
> three-finger swipe: you swipe down on the scroll bar, but up when 
> using the traditional swipe gesture, to move from the top to the bottom.
> I hope that made some sense - if not, let me know and I'll try to clarify.
> HTH,
> Nicky
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: 06 June 2020 05:56
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window
>
> What long lists might you be referring to because I just don't 
> understand how to use this. Maybe you could explain to where it would 
> make sense please.
> q
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Nicola Sanders 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>> Maybe I'm the only one, but personally I love the vertical scroll 
>> bar! I find it really useful for navigating very long lists - much 
>> quicker than endless three-finger swiping. Perhaps it should be an option in 
>> Settings.
>> Best,
>> Nicky
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: 05 June 2020 20:35
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window Boy I would 
>> too!
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Dave
>> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:16 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window I would like 
>> the option. To hide the vertical scrol lbar.
>> Dave.
>> From: Anne West <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 6:30 PM
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window I agree. It 
>> seems the world is suddenly camera happy. I would like to get rid of 
>> that info too. It’s annoying.
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>> Of Afik Souffir
>> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:40
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window Hi Ann, I 
>> dont think that its have an option for this.
>> Sent from my Iphone
>>>  On 5 Jun 2020, at 16:35, Ann Byrne <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>  On the texting screen, there is all kinds of clutter including the 
>> names of other apps, camera, record, and so on.  Is there a way to 
>> clear the crud off the screen so a beginner (or experienceder) can 
>> navigate directly to the text area and the keyboard without having to 
>> negotiate fifteen other items that don't relate to texting?
>>  I hope.
>>  Thx,
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