Thanks. Likewise, I also got a reply that he's looking into it. Quick question: Would the "reset all settings" require me to reorganize all my apps on the home screen into folders? If so, I was thinking that I could do it the coward's way: 1: Turn off iCloud sync and uninstall Voice Dream on phone B; 2: Reset all settings on phone A; 3: Assuming that the duplicates problem is resolved on phone A, reinstall Voice Dream on phone B and sync with iCloud; 4: Back up phone B to iCloud and restore phone A from that backup. Anyway, it's nearly midnight here, so we'll see what happens. It's more of an intriguing problem than a really serious disaster.
" Sent from my iPhone > On 29 Apr 2020, at 23:22, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I got a reply from Voice Dream Support and he is looking into it. > If I hear more, I’ll pass it on. > > > > Richard > "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Nicola > Sanders > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels > > Hi all, > Thanks for your thoughts, experiences and suggestions. Richard, I may indeed > get in touch with Apple Accessibility, but think I'll wait to hear back from > Winston first. I also thought of using Be My Eyes on one phone to examine the > screen of the other! > Alan, in my case I have iCloud sync turned on. I too well remember the > horrendous problems that Mary had with her library. But since my library is > quite small and I make sure I back up anything important, I decided to go for > the "feel the fear and do it anyway" approach and stick with iCloud sync in > my case. My problemis nowhere near as serious as Mary's, as I can access all > my content and haven't lost anything. Famous last words! > I have noticed that a folder that I added about a year ago hasn't been > duplicated, which makes me think that the problem may have happened some time > ago. > You may have spotted that I'm rather reluctant to reset all settings, as I > don't fancy all that work, but I may not be able to avoid it forever. > I'll keep you posted. > Nicky > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 29 Apr 2020, at 20:22, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It happened to me as duplicate file names and I had cloud sync turned off. > I wish I knew what setting that was reset when I reset all settings that > fixed the problem. > But the fact that resetting all settings fixed it still makes me think its an > iOS VoiceOver issue, even though Voice Dream Reader is the only app that > behaved this way. > > > Richard > Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today. > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > www.turner42.com > > > > On Apr 29, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Alan Lemly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm curious whether those experiencing the Voice Dream duplicate folder label > problem have iCloud Sync turned on in their Voice Dream settings. I've never > turned this on since I only use one mobile device and I recall a problem Mary > experienced losing her Voice Dream library when she turned on iCloud Sync > when it was first introduced. I'm getting ready to set up a new iPhone and > want to get my Voice Dream content transferred but I'm less than convinced > that iCloud Sync is the best way to do this. I have sent an email to Voice > Dream Support asking about this but I don't think I'm going to get a reply > before my iPhone arrives tomorrow. > > Alan Lemly > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Nicola Sanders > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 3:30 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels > > Hi, thanks to both, interesting that you've had similar problems. > Richard, I don't have access to physical sighted assistance at the moment > because of the lockdown, but I think my problem may be slightly different: > The duplicate folder names are not adjacent to each other, but spread > throughout the very long list at more or less regular intervals in a > sequence. I can move through the list using a three-finger swipe, and if i do > a three-finger single tap, VoiceOver will say something like "items 95 to 99 > of 322", reflecting the extent to which I've swiped through the list. This > leads me to think that the folder names are actually visible in my case, as > opposed to mere figments of VoiceOver's imagination: > You're definitely right to counsel caution, and I'll contact Winston and wait > for the response before doing anything rash. I'll report back to the list, if > you're interested. > Best, Nicky > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 29 Apr 2020, at 03:59, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I don’t know, but since visually there is no problem, but VoiceOver double > speaks, then to me that is a VoiceOver issue. > It came up out of nowhere for me on two different phones. > Frankly, I’m chalking it up to iOS 13.4.1 but I really have no idea. > > > > Richard > "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Anthony Borg > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels > > Hi richard > > I also noticed that problem as well. I don’t know how who created it didn’t > notice it as well. > Regards > > Anthony > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: 29 April 2020 01:40 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader problem: Duplicate folder labels > > Before you do any drastic in Voice Dream Reader, you may have a variation on > an issue I have had twice now. > Suddenly, Voice Over was saying the same file name twice, when visually there > was only one. > If I deleted one, both were gone. > Somewhat accidentally, I discovered that reseting all settings resolved the > issue. > Now, this is a royal pain, because most of the settings you have customized > are back to defaults, like keyboard, Siri, wall paper, rotor, and on and on. > Since this was clearly a VoiceOver issue, since my sighted wife confirmed > there really were only one copy of each file; mucking around in Voice Dream > Reader probably isn't going to solve it. > I would just proceed with caution. > > > Richard > Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives us to dwinking, today. > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > www.turner42.com > > > > On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Nicola Sanders <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > I meant to post this yesterday, but life got in the way. I have a strange > problem with Voice Dream Reader: as per the subject line, I have discovered > that I have multiple instances of the same folder name in my list of folders. > I do not have duplicates of the actual files in the folders, and the “all > items” list shows the right number of items in my library. I have around 15 > folders, but in my folder list there are more than 200 items – at least, > there were until I started to clean them up. > If I delete one of the duplicate folder labels, all the instances of that > folder name are removed and the files in that folder are “moved” to the “no > folder” list. I realize that these are not actual physical folders, but they > are more like the labels used in Gmail, I assume. Having all these duplicate > folder names is very inconvenient, as I discovered to my cost when I wanted > to reorder my folders alphabetically: newly created folders are placed at the > bottom of the list, and it is really tricky to move them all the way up from > position 200 to, let’s say, position 10 in the list. > I think I should be able to straighten things out by making sure my “no > folder” list is empty, deleting a folder, recreating it with the same name, > selecting the contents of the “no folder” list and moving it into the folder > I just created. However, I am really wondering whether anyone else has had a > similar problem, and what I can do in future to prevent it from happening. > A bit of background: I have iCloud Drive on my PC and I usually add items to > my Voice Dream library by placing them in the Loader subfolder of the Reader > folder in iCloud Drive. I also add items to my library using share sheets > from other apps. I happen to have two iPhones, both using VDR and syncing > with iCloud, and my gut feeling is that this could be part of the problem. I > always try to avoid having Voice Dream open on both phones at the same time, > but I cannot guarantee that this has never occurred inadvertently. I can open > the Library folder in iCloud Drive on the PC, but I would hesitate to try to > edit it without knowing exactly what I was doing, as I would really prefer > not to lose files if I can help it. My library is not very large – only about > 320 items, many of which are fairly small files – so I don’t think that’s the > problem. > I will contact Voice Dream Support about this, but I thought I’d ask on here > as well, in case anyone has had a similar experience. I believe that these > folder labels must have been proliferating for a while without me even > realizing it, which I know sounds rather strange! 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