Updated my SE, and everything (including the native Mail app) working as it 
should! The phone even seems a bit snappier than with iOS11&12!

Gera
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> El 20 sep 2019, a la(s) 5:56 a. m., Justin Harris <[email protected]> 
> escribió:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Still not entirely sure why so many people are not wanting to update. Yes 
>> iOS was pretty buggy in those first few betas, but is pretty stable now. No 
>> major bugs come to mind. Final release seems just fine. I updated all my 
>> devices yesterday and have not had any problems at all for what that may be 
>> worth. 
>> 
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>> El 09/20/2019, a la(s) 3:36 a. m., Dave <[email protected]> escribió:
>> 
>> If you have your automatic updates off, and say remind
>> me later, there used to be another option to say no.
>> 
>> Then i would go and remove the downloaded update from my phone.
>> 
>> This always worked for me.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Karen Poulakos
>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 2:53 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13
>> 
>> That's the approach I usually take.  But for me, disagreeing with the terms 
>> doesn't stop it permanently.  But it's an easy way to get rid of the 
>> message, and delay it for awhile.
>> 
>> Karen P
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 8:34 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13
>> 
>> Hello Richard,
>> 
>> This is great info.
>> 
>> Not to put too simple a spin on this but the only way I have found to 
>> permanently stopped being prompted to update is to simply disagree with the 
>> terms of service.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 2:28 PM
>> To: ViPone list
>> Subject: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13
>> 
>> A coworker sent me this.
>> 
>> Info from another group worth noteing - Hello group! With iOS 13 coming out 
>> and lots of us not wanting to download it because of the multiple voiceover 
>> bugs, may I take this opportunity to warn you of apples rather sneaky way of 
>> overriding your settings to install updates when you don't want them.
>> If you go into settings, general, software update, you'll find a button to 
>> turn off automatic software updates. Go ahead and switch that to off, but be 
>> aware that it may not stop the update from being installed. There's another 
>> step you will probably need to take.
>> You may find a dialogue popping up sometime in the next few days asking if 
>> you want to install iOS 13. The two options you'll be given are "install 
>> now" or "later". You'll assume you need to choose "later", since you don't 
>> want the update at all, and then you'll be asked to enter your passcode. At 
>> this point, the phone is ready to install the update, despite the fact that 
>> you have auto update set to off, and it will do it sometime in the couple of 
>> days after you've seen the dialogue come up.
>> So, when the dialog has appeared and you've chosen the later option, go back 
>> into settings, general, software update and you'll see another button has 
>> appeared, called "Cancel auto install" or something like that. You need to 
>> double tap that button to stop the phone doing the update automatically. And 
>> all of this happens even though you've got your auto update set to off. 
>> Apple sure are keen to get us updating.
>> Sorry for the long post but I wouldn't want anyone to get caught out by this.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>> 
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