I just tried dictating into the google Docs app: I was using the iOS English keyboard and, with voiceover on, I double tapped with two fingers but the results were rubbish! It is still Siri in action, I suppose... Harry
> On 1 Dec 2018, at 13:54, Jim Fettgather <[email protected]> wrote: > > If GBoard from Google will improve its accessibility and compatibility with > Voiceover, it could provide an alternative method for dictation, as this is > so frustrating the way it is now in IOS 12. > Additionally, I have noticed that if I dictate into the IOS version of Google > Docs, no dictation errors, no changes after dictation is completed, it is > quite accurate and quite amazing. > -----Original Message----- From: TaraPrakash > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 4:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Secret iPhone & iPad Typing Tips: Trackpad Mode and more!, iMore > > I second that. And sometimes u dictate something it reads back do you > something completely different. But actually typing what do you ask it too. > The recognition accuracy has significantly come down athlete. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 30, 2018, at 7:28 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Sieghard, I know what you mean about dictation. Sometimes it just gets it >> so, so wrong! And I've found lately that dictation has gotten even weirder >> lately. What happens is that you'll dictate something, and when it's read >> back, VO reads what you dictated, and it's correct. Then, when you go and >> double-check the message, just in case, things will be completely screwed >> up. It's like dictation does a second pass through your text, and you'll end >> up with all sorts of errors--slightly wrong words, completely different >> words, whole chunks of your sentence missing, and the last, and worst, only >> the last word of your sentence being dictated. Now, I've used an iPhone >> since September of 2011, so I'm not a new user by any means, and know how to >> dictate very well; in fact, it drives me nuts when people don't dictate >> punctuation. This worsening behavior is just awful. >> >> I know what you mean about dictation not getting a certain word right, no >> matter how much you say it. My word that it screws up on all the time on one >> day was raisin. This happened both when I tried to dictate it and when I >> tried asking Siri how to spell it. It kept inputting or giving me the answer >> of reason, which was totally frustrating! >> >> >> Thanks, >> Ari >> >>> On Nov 27, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I had a real good chuckle at the dictation mention and how better it is to >>> talk than type at times. >>> Of course this would be true if SIRI wasn't so stupid and make so many >>> mistakes. >>> I dictate a lot, but I have made it a rule never or at least extremely >>> rarely will I send a message without going over it word by word because >>> sometimes especially with a bit of background noise just hearing it read >>> back can sound like it's OK when it is not. >>> I find especially often I will say "a" or "him" or "them" and SIRI puts >>> "the" instead of "a", "them" instead of "him" and so on. >>> A couple of weeks ago I send a message to my Mom where I was talking about >>> my niece who wants to get a backpack for Christmas. As some of you know I >>> own a retail business and sell outdoor and hunting gear and backpacks are >>> definitely an item we have lots of. Anyways, I dictated the message but >>> instead of "backpack" SIRI wrote "fuck fuck", sorry for the bad word, but I >>> am not kidding and I sent the message and didn't catch it because I was >>> doing this as I was walking with traffic noise and it honestly sounded >>> correct. My Mom did realize what happened so it wasn't the end of the >>> world, but sometimes what SIRI comes up with can be potentially extremely >>> embarrassing and at times I really scratch my head. Another one is my guide >>> dog's name which is Radar, SIRI never gets that right, it either puts >>> "reader" or "raider" or "rider" >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of M. >>> Taylor >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:30 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Secret iPhone & iPad Typing Tips: Trackpad Mode and more!, iMore >>> >>> Secret iPhone & iPad Typing Tips: Trackpad Mode and more! >>> By Rene Ritchie, 24 Nov 2018 >>> Tap. Shake. Press. Whether you're using an iPhone on the go or an iPad Pro >>> to get your very real work… or play… done, the more efficient you can be, >>> the better. Including typing. Especially typing. >>> Following the launch of the latest iPad Pro, even basic typing tricks like >>> trackpad mode and cursor movement spread through social with viral shock >>> and delight. Years old, many people still simply didn't know. >>> Well, let's fix that now. >>> I usually try to do these things in order, but this one got so much >>> attention lately I'm going to front load so you get it first. If you're >>> using the virtual keyboard you can quickly switch it to a virtual trackpad, >>> which makes precisely placing the cursor for precision edits much, much >>> easier. >>> 1. Touch and hold the Space Bar. >>> 2. Swipe your finger over the trackpad to move the cursor. >>> On a 3D Touch iPhone, you can also press firmly to switch to trackpad mode, >>> and press again to switch between moving the cursor and text selection. >>> On an iPad, you can just use two fingers directly on the text to move the >>> cursor, and double tap to switch to text selection. >>> It's so good it kinda makes you wish external keyboards had a way to >>> support it. And on more than just >>> >>> There are a lot of settings you can toggle for the keyboard, including >>> auto-caps, auto-corrections, spell-check, caps lock, predictions, and more. >>> 1. Launch Settings. >>> 2. Tap on General. >>> 3. Tap on Keyboard. >>> 4. Toggle until you're happy. >>> For most people, most of the time, the defaults are not only fine. But, if >>> they're not for you, at least not right now, fix them up just the way you >>> like them before we go on. >>> Speed caps (and numbers and symbols) >>> >>> If you only want to enter one number or symbol, don't tap Number or Symbol >>> button — there's a faster way! >>> 1. Touch the number or symbol button and keep your finger on it. >>> 2. Slide your finger up to the number or symbol you want to enter. >>> 3. Let go! >>> Once you're done, the keyboard will instantly switch back to text more. The >>> same works for shift when you want to enter uppercase letters! >>> CAPS LOCK >>> >>> When you want to SHOUT AT SOMEONE WHO IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET you don't >>> need to hit the Shift button for each letter. >>> 1. Tap the shift quick twice in a row. >>> 2. Type your TEXT. >>> 3. Tap shift again to go back to lower case. >>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >>> Special characters >>> >>> Typing the letter 'e' is easy as tapping it. Typing 'èéêëēėę' is almost as >>> easy. >>> 1. Touch and hold down on the letter to get a popup with alternate >>> characters. >>> 2. Slide over to the alternate character you want enter. >>> 3. Let go. >>> On 3D Touch iPhones, you even get this really cool Taptic feedback for each >>> character… which kinda feels like it should be an option, like keyboard >>> sound, for every key by now. >>> Keyboard shortcuts >>> If you have an external keyboard connected to your iPad, you get all sorts >>> of useful keyboard shortcuts along with it. >>> That includes classics like command C command C to copy and Command V to >>> paste, even command Tab to switch between recent apps, and command space >>> for Spotlight. But you also get some special ones, like command H to return >>> to the Home screen. >>> Just hold down the command key to bring up a list of useful commands for >>> any app, or area of the system, you're in. >>> Shake to undo (iPhone only) >>> >>> If you type some text, delete some text, or even paste some text and later >>> regret, you can undo it. >>> 1. Shake your iPhone. >>> 2. Tap Undo (or Redo). >>> Yeah… it's… weird. But it works. What works even better is a dedicated Undo >>> key, which only the Plus size — but strangely not the Max size — iPhones >>> have and only in landscape. >>> It'd be great to see that everywhere. >>> One handed mode >>> If you're a walk and typer with your iPhone, coffee in one hand, texting in >>> the other, or if you just prefer typing one handed, you can offset the >>> keyboard right or left to make it easier. >>> 1. Tap and hold the Globe button. >>> 2. Tap the left or right biased keyboard button. >>> Type away, and when and if you want to go back, just hit the big arrow on >>> the other side. >>> Split Keyboard >>> On smaller iPads, basically 10.5 and under, you can undock and move the >>> keyboard, and split it left and right for easier thumb typing. >>> 1. Touch and hold the keyboard button, bottom right. >>> 2. Tap Undock to release or Split to separate. >>> You can redock and merge at any point by doing the same thing. And, yeah, >>> Apple seems to think the new 11-inch and all 12.9 inch iPads are too big >>> for this feature, but almost anyone who knows about it and tries it just >>> thinks it's broken and that might not be the better solution. >>> Dictation >>> >>> As improved as the iPhone and iPad keyboards are, sometimes it's still >>> easier to talk than type. Dictation has gotten better over the years, >>> including streaming transcriptions, and offline speech-to-text. Just… >>> 1. Tap the mic button >>> 2. Start talking. >>> You can even say punctuation, "new line", "new paragraph", and even "all >>> caps". If you need to be totally hands free, you can tell Siri to send a >>> new message or email, or even take a note, and then just start dictating. >>> Sadly, there's still no emoji support, just smiley and frowney emoticons. >>> Fast formatting >>> >>> You can quickly apply bold, italics, underline, or strike-through in any >>> app that supports rich text formatting. >>> 1. Select the text you want to format. >>> 2. Tap the B/U option in the popup menu. >>> 3. Choose the formatting you want to apply. >>> You can also change the indent level or, in mail, the quote level in >>> replies. >>> Attachment insertion >>> >>> If your typing an email and decide you want to attach a photo, video, or >>> file, you don't have to destroy the email, go find the file, and start all >>> over. You can attach from right inside the existing email. >>> 1. Tap where you want to insert the image or attachment. >>> 2. Tap Insert Photo or Attachment from the popup menu. >>> 3. Choose the photo or attachment you want to insert. >>> Look Up >>> >>> If you're not sure whether you're using the right word — cite the site in >>> sight? — you can pull up a dictionary and check. >>> 1. Double tap to select the word you want to look up. >>> 2. Tap Look Up to get the dictionary definition, wikipedia entry, and >>> often related news and even media related to that word. >>> iOS can actually support multiple dictionaries as well, so you can go to >>> Settings, General, Dictionary and check out the list. >>> Super shortcuts >>> If you tap the spacebar twice while typing, iOS will automatically insert a >>> '.' for you and capitalizes the next letter. That's a great time-saver, but >>> what's even better is that you can set up your own. >>> 1. Launch Settings. >>> 2. Tap on General >>> 3. Tap on Keyboard. >>> 4. Tap on Shortcuts. >>> It's great for handling common misspellings or inserting anything your type >>> frequently, like 'gml' for your gmail address. Or… sshrug for ¯_(ツ)_/°¯ >>> Keyboard apps >>> >>> If you don't like the built-in QuickType keyboard, you can get alternate >>> typing methods like SwiftKey or T9, productivity boosters like Grammarly, >>> and even fun stuff like Bitmoji. >>> 1. Launch App Store. >>> 2. Find the keyboard you want and download it. >>> 3. Launch Settings. >>> 4. Tap on General. >>> 5. Tap on Keyboards. >>> 6. Tap on New Keyboard. >>> 7. Choose the keyboard you downloaded. >>> Third party keyboards are still a little kludgy on iOS, even if they have >>> gotten better over the years. And, yeah… so much bitmoji. >>> Swift switching >>> >>> Once you've got a few keyboards installed, paging between them becomes >>> arduous. Instead: >>> 1. Touch and hold the Globe/Smily button until the keyboard selector >>> pops up. >>> 2. Slide up to the keyboard you want to switch to. >>> 3. Let go. >>> QuickType… and untype >>> >>> Pop quiz, did you know the same person who ran Internet Explorer for >>> Microsoft also invented auto complete and auto correct? >>> Apple's version of AutoCorrect is now part of the QuickType keyboard >>> system, which uses machine learning not just to figure out what and how you >>> like to type, but to crowd source popular slang and expressions so it can >>> suggest those to you as well. >>> If it goes wrong, though, and corrects something you never wanted >>> corrected, just hit the backspace key and iOS will popup what you >>> originally typed. 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