Hello Sieghard Thanks for the info and as always, you are correct, I think the airpod way would be the best. Unfortunately our exchange rate is so bad that airpods would cost an arm and a leg. I am also so glad you put me on the Sonos road. My son was in Germany a few weeks ago and he brought me a second play3. By going as a visitor he could manage to bring the play3 as a gift, so I paid just a bit more than half the SA price. Maybe I shall be able to do a similar thing once you think a future generation airpod meets the requirements. Regards and thanks for your good advice and objective opinions Fanus
From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 6:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys Hi Fanus, The Sennheiser Flex 5000 is not a speaker, it is a 2-part device, the transmitter is plugged into whatever source you want to use and then the actual unit which you can clip on your belt or put it in a pocket is a receiver with a 3.5mm headphone jack. It’s a fully digital system with options to plug into a 3.5mm/RCA analogue output or into an optical digital output. While this is a wireless system as far as from the source to the device, you still end up with a wired headset so in that respect it isn’t that much different from using an iPhone with a wired headset. Other Sennheiser headphones are wireless, but again those are large rheadphones. I have sort of come to the conclusion that the best option is probably something like the Airpods. You can use one or both and they would be small enough not to be a bother and if you fall asleep and they fall out then you probably just end up sleeping on them which shouldn’t hurt them and theoretically your playback should stop if they fall out of your ear. Of course I have stated numerous times that I am not spending the high price for Airpods until they are more advanced, i.e. they need to first offer similar controls than the in-wire microphone/remote of the Earpods and definitely they need to have volume control. Apple apparently recently announced that the Airpods will get an upgrade at some point this year and that the new generation 2 Airpods will fully support Hey SIRI which means you won’t need tap functionality to invoke SIRI. I will definitely wait and see, there is already talk that the third generation Airpods will be officially water resistant possibly to the point where you can swim with them although in that case Apple of course needs to incorporate some sort of loop so you can attach a string or cable. I was listening to a Podcast and they were going o and on about how awesome this would be because you could take them wake boarding or surfing or whatever and the first thing that popped into my head was how stupid that would be since they’d probably fall out after the first big wave hits and you would of course never find them again. Maybe in 20 years they all get washed up somewhere because of ocean currents and just like there now is a garbage patch in the Pacific which is larger than most countries maybe there will be an Airpod patch. Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fanus Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 7:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys Hello Sieghard & list I am also looking for a way to solve the same book reading problem and interestingly enough I have the older micus BT transmitter/receiver and I get similar drop-outs at a fairly short distance. So if you find a solution then please inform us. Does the sennheiser wireless speaker then have a headphone plug or how are you going to get the sound so soft as not to disturb your wife? Regards Fanus From: Jesper Holten Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 10:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys Hi All. Regrding the sleepPhones are they only good for sleeping, or would they be ok to use in other situations, e.g. commuting etc? Thanks in advance, Jesper. On 1/17/18, Gary Ketler <[email protected]> wrote: > Sleepphones are great. We have used them for several years. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Rick Alfaro > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys > > Hi Sieghard. > > > > Have you considered trying out the Sleep Phones from www.sleepPhones > <http://www.sleepPhones> .com ? > > > > They come in both wired and BT versions. I have not tried them personally > but they sure sound like they would fit the bill for you. > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:36 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Thoughts about some new bluetooth toys > > > > Hello, > > > > I’m a huge Audible/audio book fan and often listen at night after my wife > goes to bed. I therefore am always on the lookout for the perfect way to > listen so it doesn’t disturb my wife but so it’s also comfortable for me > since I often fall asleep listening. > I often just use my iPhone and wired Earpods, but sometimes that of course > results in me waking up during the middle of the night lying on my iPhone > and with Earpods wrapped around me. I have tried a pillow speaker which I > purchased from Amazon, but it wasn’t for me. I sometimes use my Plantronics > Voyager Edge which just a single earpiece and if it ends up somewhere in the > bed under me it’s not so bad, but it’s also not quite perfect yet. > > I recently purchased two larger headsets and something called a bluetooth > receiver/transmitter, here some links: > > > > Jabra Move – link to the canadian Jabra website > <https://www.jabra.ca/music/jabra-move-wireless> > > Jabra Move – link to Best Buy Canada > <https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/jabra-jabra-move-on-ear-bluetooth-headphones-blue-100-96300001-20/10358809.aspx> > , regular $109.99 on sale until today for $69.99 > > I actually bought this on Amazon.ca for $88 so seeing on Best Buy Canada on > sale for $69.99 is a bummer, but anyhow, I quite like this headset. It’s an > on-ear headset which is very comfortable and well-built. Only thing for me > is that the on/off switch which is a slider is on the right ear and the > play/pause button and volume up/down is on the left which I find a bit > awkward. > > It claims 8 hours of battery life and can be used in wired mode as well and > I quite like it when headsets offer both options. > > > > Sony MDRXB950BT/B on Amazon.com > <https://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRXB950BT-Extra-Bluetooth-Headphones/dp/B00MCHE38O> > $118.00 > > Sony MDRXB950BT/B on Amazon Canada $199.99 > <https://www.amazon.ca/Sony-MDR-XB950BT-Bluetooth-Extra-Headphones/dp/B00NBR6QMK> > > > Sony MDRXB950BT review > <https://medium.com/@Xander51/sony-xb950n1-xb950b1-extra-bass-wireless-headphones-review-a-feature-packed-update-of-an-old-46a8750021d4> > > > These are over-the-ear headphones which have noise cancelling and a base > boost feature and they are awesome, but a bit larger than the Jabra Move. > > I was able to get them on sale on Amazon Canada during Boxing Week for > $124.99 Canadian which is under $100 US so that was a really good deal. > > I love the controls, the on/off is a button, but the headphones have a very > pleasant and high quality female voice and say things like “Power On”, > “Power Off”, “Pairing mode” etc. > > The play/pause is on the right ear and it’s a button but it ccan also be > pusshed up/down for skip/jump back and if you push and hold it it will fast > forward/rewind. > > They sound fantastic, are very comfortable and what I would expect from > Sony. I have seen reviews where they are favouribly compared with Bose and > Beats headsets which cost much more. > > > > The last item I bought is a dual mode bluetooth receiver/transmitter, it can > connect to a TV, stereo etc. by 3.5mm/RCA analogue or optical digital > connection and this allows you to make a non-bluetooth device into one you > can listen to with a bluetooth headset or speaker. Here the Amazon.ca link: > > > > Miccus LONG RANGE Dual Link Bluetooth Transmitter and Bluetooth Receiver, > aptX Low Latency audio. Wireless adapter for TV, stereo, speakers, Phone, > PC. Auto optical pass through - (Home RTX 2.0) > <https://www.amazon.ca/Miccus-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Wireless/dp/B075J4RKGH/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1515687519&sr=8-6&keywords=miccus+bluetooth> > > > It’s a little box, maybe the size of an iPhone 7 (not a Plus) and it has a > 3.5mm analogue input and output in the back as well as an optical digital > input and output and it comes with a little antenna which is attached in the > back in the middle. It also has a micro USB port for power. > > I bought this in order to basically bluetooth enable my Sonos system. I have > waited for a long time for Sonos to come out with a Sonos headset, but at > this point Sonos is all about listening out loud via speakers, they now are > focusing on their voice smartspeakers which support Alexa and soon will > support Google Assistant and Cortana and I have a feeling that a headset is > not coming soon although I’m sure it will come at some point since you find > many posts on forums where people want one. > > Anyhow, I plugged it into one of my Sonos Connect players using the optical > digital cable and at first it seemed to work great with the Jabra Move > headset. However, after you listen for a while there are little drop-outs, > just a second or less, but annoying. I have it just next door to the bedroom > in my office and up on a shelf about 5 feet high and when I am in bed at > night that is literally 10 feet away and through one wall (just a regular > interior wall with drywall) so I’m not too sure if I want to keep this. > > Alternatively I could go with any of the many Sennheiser wireless speakers > which are not bluetooth but which plug into a stereo or other source with a > base and then transmit via the 900 Mhz band (their less expensive models) or > via 6 Ghz digital. Some of these have a super-long range of at least 100 > feet or more and the digital models can also plug into an optical digital > output and sound probably better than bluetooth. > > > > Anyhow, thought I share my thoughts on these devices, as for listening to > audio books in bed I am starting to think that something with the form > factor of the Airpods which can be used in one ear or both would probably my > best choice, if it falls out when I go to sleep it would hopefully paus the > audio which would be nice and if I lie on it I don’t think it would be a > problem, but of course I am still not willing to shell out over $200 > Canadian for these things. 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