Hi Jim,
I am replying here because it may affect other people on the list who have
expressed interest in the BotVac Connect. I have only had it for a few days now
and am still putting it through its paces. The actual Vac is excellent in my
opinion, easy to empty and maintain. Well made and has a reputation of
reliability. The only reason I have mentioned it here is because it now comes
with an app, both for the iPhone or Android.
I have been playing with the app, which, at first seemed totally
accessible, and, certainly, for the basic functions it is. However, I am
finding some details which VO is not reading. For me, these are not
deal-breakers, and I am amazed to find the app as good as it is, especially, as
I don't think the developers had VO in mind. I am writing to them to see if
anything can be done to improve some of the short-comings. So, up to you, but,
perhaps, you might like to hold off till things get sorted?
As I say, you can set it off and it will do what is necessary, but full
control, without sight, is not quite there.
If you go to
neatorobotics.com
they have a support page which tells you all about the vac with lots of FaQs
and general info.
Later, Sandy.
sent from the dark side of the moon
> On 13 Jun 2016, at 19:55, Jim Ruby <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Could you write me with more details as I am interested in trying out one of
> these. Thank you
>
>
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 4:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> I shall respond off list, as we are speaking more of the attributes of
> the Vac rather than the app.
>
> However, while we are on list, I should like to say that extending the
> use of the iPhone beyond its, originally, perceived potential, is still valid
> for the list.
>
> I see mention of blood pressure monitors, one pot cookers and fitbit
> accessories, and all are valid for this list, in my opinion. But, I never
> wanted to tire the list with too much enthusiasm on my part. The simple fact
> is that this vac has reinvigorated my interest in my house and my
> environment, generally. The Bot will work without the app, but in a most
> limited form, with the app, it becomes something that one can contral just
> like anyone else.
>
> See you off list,
> Sandy.
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 12 Jun 2016, at 22:26, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Sandy,
>
> Thanks very much for all the info and the demos.
>
> We have a mix of carpet and tile. Can one easily set up a carpet day and a
> tile day, giving time to switch out the brushes for the different floor
> surfaces??
>
> How much softer is the noise in Eco mode?
>
> Please keep me informed if you have to go off the viPhone list by adding me
> to your email list at the following: [email protected] .
>
> Best, Keith
>
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> Oh! It has suction alright! I think it might be the most powerful of the
> robot vacs. Yesterday, my first time using it, I used the Turbo mode, which
> is the most powerful, together with the rotating brush, rather like those of
> an upright vacuum. It did a splendid job, but today, after finding another
> brush in the box (by the way, the brushes are easy to swap and the dust bin
> is easy to empty) well, this second brush is also a rotating brush, but is
> more like a multiple squeegy! I looked it up on line and discovered that it
> is called the "spiral blade brush" and is recommended for hard floors. Since
> most of my floors are hard floors, tiles and wood, I gave it a go and I
> changed the power mode to "Eco", less powerful. Well, I was delighted to see
> that not only did it do just as well as the other brush at picking up
> dust/crumbs etc, it also buffs the tiles/wood, making them feel nicer and
> more shiny!!! My Roomba, in the past, used to do this, and I wondered if the
> Neato product could do the same and it can! I should say that whenever the
> floor is vacuumed with our very powerful suction vac (a conventional one that
> is) the floors always looked clean to the sighted, but to me, who goes by the
> feel, they never were quite nice to the touch. Now, with the BotVac and the
> new brush, I keep bending down to admire the lovely shiny clean tiles!!!
>
> What does it cost?From Amazon in the UK, I paid a wacking 530 pounds
> sterling! However, Jeremy seems to have found an excellent deal from Best
> Buys (I hope I have that right. Perhaps Jeremy could give some details again?)
>
> Hope this helps,
> Sandy of the scintillatingly, shiny, floors!
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 12 Jun 2016, at 18:03, Pinky <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Sandy,
> Does this Bot Vac have suction or does it just use brushes to clean? Also
> about how much is this little unit?
> Ed
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Hi Sandy,
>
> If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. You
> will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or
> maybe they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling
> botvac) organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time
> you can afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life.
>
> Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard their
> union’s “sucks” *smile*
>
> Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow
>
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Hi Sieghard and Marie,
>
> Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at model
> numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24
> hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable
> to say that we are both still on a learning curve. For example,
> accessibility, seems very good, once you have set up the wifi, but I have
> only done the most basic commands thus far. I have only sent it off to do its
> own thing, once!!!True, I do have experience of Roombas, and do know what to
> look for, and I would say that this seems to be even better and costs 2/3 of
> the price, but still, it is early days. In other words, make sure you can
> send it back if you do go for it, and please don't hold me to blame if you
> are disappointed!!!!
>
> OK, caveat emptor and all that, plus a bit of cave canem and tempus
> fugit,my new toy is called the Neatorobot botvac connected. There are several
> models of the neato robot vacuum cleaners, the only one that works with an
> app is the one which includes the word 'connected".
>
> As for going under beds: it is 12 cm high, I think that might be about 4
> and 3/4 inches high. My bed is about 2 ft 6 high, being an old brass type,
> so, obviously, no probs there, I could possibly fit the entire Dagganham
> Girls Brass Band under there! But if you have something more modern, much
> less than 5 inches might be too tight.
>
> I think that this Neato product has the best and easiest dust bin, both
> for removal and emptying. It was nearly full after today's effort, and Hugh
> was sure it wouldn't have much to get, seeing as he had hoovered, with a
> powerful traditional vac recently. I had a lot of dog hairs in it, though the
> dog is not meant to moult and Hugh was sure he had got them all! Another nice
> thing, but I haven't tried it yet with the app, you can spot clean. Lets
> imagine you have spilt something in the kitchen, sugar or flour, perhaps, and
> you know it is in a certain area, just go get your Bot, carried easily by the
> handle, put it just in front of where you think your spillage is and press
> the spot clean button, or use the app, and it will clean a square of about 4
> ft (don't quote me on just how large the area is, can't remember just now)
> starting with the outer perimeter and working in. So, you don't have to do
> the whole room if it doesn't suit.
>
> Lastly, if anyone is serious about one of these, do look around. Amazon isn't
> bad, in fact, it might be the cheapest, but some have extended warrentees for
> up to 5 years, worth looking at IMHO.
>
> Wine time now, will clink a glass with my new pal Bottom.
>
> Sandy
>
> P.S. Sieghard, you asked how large the floor space of my ground floor, Hugh
> says about 1000 square feet.
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 11 Jun 2016, at 19:52, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> That’s where a traditional 4-poster with just a slatted base and a good
> mattress and a vacuum that is not an upright come in handy. Our bed has about
> a foot of space underneath and I have a built-in central vacuum so just the
> hose and the thing with the floor brush which is only about 2 inches thick
> and I can even get underneath our couch with it.
>
> I must admit that Sandy’s new toy sounds interesting and tempting. Sandy, I
> haven’t looked yet, but do they have different dmodels, if so, which one did
> you buy?
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 10:48 AM
> To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Under the bed? Do you have an idea what the height off the floor the thing
> measures? This could convince my wife to allow a trial purchase. She would be
> wild about something that would get under the bed. Keith
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Jeremy Gilley
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:24 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> That is what I did sandy. accidently pressed the button and off it went lol.
> My dog too has no problems with it. she sniffed it a couple times and was
> like ok, what ever.
> This thing even zoomed under my bed everything. It was really awesome
> cleaning my apt. I have a 1,300 SQFT apt. Your right, it finds the rooms off
> the living room and if you leave closets opened as I accidently did, it even
> zoomed in and cleaned.
> It is remarkable how it can be at the back end of the APT and it finds it way
> to the front of the apt where the charger is, turn itself around and back
> itself up to recharge.
>
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:16 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> Because the house was vacuumed 2 days ago, there wasn't any build-up in
> the corners etc. But, because of the shape of this Neato, which has a square
> edge, it does go along the wall edges, using its side brushes, these push the
> dust/hair under the rotating brushes and are sucked up. Also, because of the
> square corners, it should do a better job in corners. I can only say that we
> will be monitoring it over the next month, not using any other vacuum, and I
> will report back to you. As for tiles: approx half of our floor space is
> tiled and it works well with them. I was a little concerned when my partner
> ordered the Bot before I had finished researching it because I had heard that
> it had problems with dark/black floors, interpreting them as "drop-off". The
> thing is not meant to fall off steps and uses brightness/darkness as a guide.
> Well, we have a chess-board tiled floor and I was worried it might not manage
> it, however, no probs. perhaps the problems were with earlier models. Rugs
> are no problem either. However, if you have something long haired like a goat
> skin rug, well, you will have the same problems that you would have with any
> hoover.
>
> Lastly, re the chairs and table scenario: the Bot does map and remember,
> but it also sees, in a way, it uses laser. If things are exactly in their
> usual place, I imagine, it will be most quick to do its work, but if things
> are moved, it will work, just as it did for me this morning, when it mapped
> for the first time. By the way, we did leave the chairs down, round the
> tables, it was fine! it went in between the legs and did a fine job! Do you
> get the impression I like this new toy?
>
> Lastly, as I told Jeramy, we do still need help with turning on the wifi on
> the BotVac itself before we can use it with the app. But one can always just
> press the start button and off it goes!
>
> Sandy.
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 11 Jun 2016, at 17:25, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> How does it do on edges and corners? And tile?
>
> If a dining room table has chairs positioned at the table, it can’t get
> underneath. So, if one removes the chairs on occasion to do a more thorough
> cleaning, is it smart enough to know at those times, without the chairs
> there, it should clean under the table, too?
>
> Thanks, Keith
>
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:10 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Sieghard,
>
> Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined abby,
> but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the ground
> floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will time it
> tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my new
> household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I had
> it set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your
> floors to your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery
> intensive mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house, whereas,
> I do have some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of larger, say, 6
> by 8, or therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on them. Also, re
> noise, on Turbo,it is louder than on Eco, but I didn't find it at all loud,
> even when Hugh and I and dog were in the kitchen while it was working. When
> it did the utility room, I had thought it had forgotten it and so had started
> feeding the cat and the dog, it carried on working around them and me, in a
> really rather confined space.
>
> I am sure I will come across some glitches, but, so far, I am suitably
> impressed and I have had these things, in one form or another, for years! The
> app is very nice and seems totally accessible, think I will write to the
> owners, not only to request the implant which you so kindly suggested, but
> also to congratulate them on a job well done re accessibility!
>
> Sandy (Version 1)
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 11 Jun 2016, at 16:34, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Sandy,
>
> Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and
> ask if they could hook up some of that technology to your brain, next thing
> you’ll be running around without a cane or a dog, just make sure they leave
> out whatever makes the botvac suck up all the dirt it comes across, it might
> give you indigestion and I don’t think our anatomy is designed to cough up
> furballs *smile*.
>
> Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and
> how long did it take for it to do the six rooms?
>
>
> Happy vacuuming,
> Sieghard
>
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you
> using Dropbox
>
> Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has
> arrived and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about half
> an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using the Bot.
>
> In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt
> with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms,
> all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at least 2 doors, some
> have 3, not counting external doors. I left all the internal doors open,
> nevertheless, the BotVac did each room, not being tempted out of the room
> until it was finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed
> to be heading home to the docking station, that it had missed the little
> utility room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, back
> through 3 rooms, and did the last one. Once finished, it headed, unerringly,
> only banging its head a little on a treadmill, but not put off from its
> direct line to the docking station, where it backed into place, sang a song
> and sent me a message to my iPhone saying it was done!
>
> This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and
> has a great sense of which room it is in. I want a botVac hat!!
>
> Satisfied Sandy.
> Hi,
> Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0jxpureed3fc6b/2016-06-10%2002_59.wav?dl=0
>
>
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
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