hi, 

I just had a question about accessability.  didn't apple create a code enjen or 
code script or bundle or something that  m makes building accessability in 
fairly simple?  Could we just point his  out to developers? I remember 
listening to a podcast from cool blind tek about apple accessability and a 
script and how easy it was to make something inaccessable accessable.   

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I am not a developer. 
Billy Maynard
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  From: Mary Otten 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu


  Well, I hope you are right. It is discouraging when companies like Hulu, 
which of been around and which know about accessibility, because they have been 
badgered about it, still don't get it right. It just doesn't seem to bode well. 
But I would like to be wrong, wrong, wrong.
  Mary



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  On Nov 16, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:


    Hi Mary,



    Yes, apps may have to be made accessible with TVOS now just as they have to 
be made accessible with iOS, but just because some developers may not have done 
so or maybe have not done so yet because it’s all new to me still means I love 
the new apple TV because it can do so much more than the old one. When 
everything is said and done there will still be a ton more apps many of which 
will be accessible and as the popularity of the Apple TV grows so will 
awareness about accessibility.

    But even now I totally love that when I watch a movie I can simply push the 
SIRI button and say “What did he say” or “Rewind 3 minutes”, searching for 
movies with SIRI works great and I just think this is only the start.

    I have already heard how this apple TV is more like a Beta, that it’s 
unfinished and surely Apple could have done better given how long it’s been 
since they have last updated the Apple TV. I can sort of agree with this, but 
playing devil’s advocate or maybe I should say “Apple’s advocate” one could 
also argue that while this is the next generation Apple TV it is very much 
almost a new device. The hardware is new, the remote is new and the platform 
(TVOS) is also totally new. App developers only had a few months to come up 
with apps and Apple is still hammering out deals with all the major networks 
and content providers for the actual TV offering. I’m certainly willing to cut 
them some slack and give them a year or so to see what they come up with. I 
guess I choose to see it from the “glass half full” perspective rather than the 
“glass half empty” perspective.

    As for accessibility, all of us individually as well as whatever 
organisations represent us as a group will just have to continue to lobby for 
accessibility and make developers aware of the fact that their app may not be 
accessible. In the case of a subscription based service like Hulu one can 
always cancel their subscription aeven if you do so temporarily and make sure 
to explain when you call in to cancel that they loose y our business because of 
a lack of accessibility.





    Best regards,

    Sieghard



    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten
    Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:22 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen, no voice over in Hulu



    I wonder if this is going to be an ever-growing problem with the new model 
of access in Apple TV four. With the older version, you had built in 
accessibility, because the basic framework was accessible. You had this grid  
of channels. And you could navigate that because it was going to be accessible. 
Now with these separate apps, companies are once again free to blow us off. 
Very sad.
    Mary


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    On Nov 16, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Tom Rash <[email protected]> wrote:

      Got the Apple TV 4th Gen.  Works great.  How ever, when going into Hulu, 
Voice over does not work.  Is this a probelm others are experiencing?  Or is it 
a Hulu update problem? or Apple?    Thanks.




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