Hi all,
How do I select text, copy and paste with my braille display? 
Is this possible? 
I can do it with out the display but think using the braille would be quicker.
Steph

----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Chaltain  <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:52 am
Subject: List for blind beta users [was "Re: MODERATOR NOTE:  Posting Beta 
Questions to the List Will Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status"]

>
>
> Is this Apple Beta Discussions list specifically for blind beta users or 
> any beta users, sighted or blind. I'd be interested in joining a list 
> for blind beta users to hear about and talk about accessibility and 
> VoiceOver issues in the beta, but I'd be worried that a general list for 
> beta users would involve more traffic than I'd like to get.
> 
> BTW, I think it's on topic for this list to share information about 
> other mailing lists. I'm not sure we need to be policing those other 
> lists though. People can find out on their own if it violates the NDA to 
> join such a list or not.
> 
> On 11/07/2015 02:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
> > You're right. I forgot to say the additional information. The list won't 
> > let you join if you don't have the beta installed. They'll ask you if you 
> > have a beta of iOS 9 or a beta of El Capitan. They also ask where your 
> > feedback assistant is on either your Mac or iPhone. Matthew Dierckens and 
> > Aleeha Dudley are mods of that list.
> >
> > Shawn
> > Sent From My White MacBook
> > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> > Facetime: [email protected]
> >
> >> On Nov 7, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Excuse me, but unless you have to be a beta tester to join that list that 
> >> is flying in the face of the NDA and I suspect the policy of this list as 
> >> well.
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> >> Of Shawn Krasniuk
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 12:24 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
> >> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
> >>
> >> Hi William. I'm subscribed to the list that does talk about beta versions. 
> >> If you want to subscribe to it, the address is 
> >> [email protected].
> >>
> >> Shawn
> >> Sent From My White MacBook
> >> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> >> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> >> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> >> Facetime: [email protected]
> >>
> >>> On Nov 7, 2015, at 6:57 AM, William Windels <[email protected]> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> He all,
> >>> I agree of course with the described rules.
> >>> However, since there are (always) public beta's available, it should be 
> >>> great to have a low-level place to discuss accessibility-related problems.
> >>> So perhaps, important voiceover-bugs can be solved before the public 
> >>> release.
> >>> And also perhaps , not everyone is familiar with the developer's platform 
> >>> from apple to discuss there.
> >>>
> >>> It's not my suggestion to ignore the mda-rules of apple in the first 
> >>> place but I want announce the problem for some users to announce and 
> >>> discuss accessibility problems in pre-release-versions of osx/ios.
> >>> Apple accessibility it self will not do something with pre-release 
> >>> questions , send by mail.
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> William Windels
> >>>> Op 7 nov. 2015, om 08:00 heeft M. Taylor <[email protected]> het volgende 
> >>>> geschreven:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello Alex,
> >>>>
> >>>> You ask an excellent question.
> >>>>
> >>>> You are correct.  As you stated, questions about how to sign up for the 
> >>>> beta programs or downgrading devices are fine.  However, beta-specific 
> >>>> questions or details, any issues covered by an NDA, should not be 
> >>>> posted-on-list.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:31 PM
> >>>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
> >>>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
> >>>> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark,
> >>>> I haven't been following the beta testing thread at all, so forgive me 
> >>>> if this an obvious question. List members can post questions *about* 
> >>>> testing, correct? Downgrading, signing up, un-enrolling devices, and the 
> >>>> like are all fine, as they aren't covered by NDA. It's only questions 
> >>>> specific to a beta (is this bug fixed in the new beta, and such) that 
> >>>> are the problem? This has long been my understanding of the policy on 
> >>>> this and other lists, but I wanted to check now that it's come up.
> >>>>> On Nov 6, 2015, at 23:04, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello Daniel,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You ask a very good question.  I should have included the information 
> >>>>> in my original email.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Being placed on moderated status means that one's post must first be 
> >>>>> approved by a moderator before being sent out to the entire list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mark
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> >>>>> Behalf Of Daniel Miller
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 7:56 PM
> >>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will
> >>>>> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Mark, forgive my ignorance, but what does moderated status mean 
> >>>>> exactly?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Nov 6, 2015, at 9:47 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello All,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Recently, a list member deliberately posted a beta software question
> >>>>>> to the list knowing that doing so is prohibited.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As a result, even though it saddens me greatly, that member has been
> >>>>>> placed on moderated status.  I have informed the list member of the
> >>>>>> change in posting privileges.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please do not post beta software questions to the list as doing so
> >>>>>> will cause you to be placed on moderated status.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you all for respecting the list policies.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mark
> >>>>>>
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