Again though, buggy software is usually buggy in many areas, not *just* accessibility. I'm not saying Apple should get a free pass, and I never would. I'm saying that they don't disregard accessibility; if there are problems, they will be across the board. The Mail app has had trouble with Gmail and certain other accounts for quite some time. Is that okay? No. Is that a sign that they don't care about email users? Of course it isn't. Neither is a longstanding VoiceOver bug a sign that they don't care about accessibility. > On May 20, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Robin <[email protected]> wrote: > > Their OS whether it be OSX and/or iOS will ultimately tell their true > committment to accessibility > > Software, in my opinion, shouldn't be released to the Public if it contains > Major "Bugs" and/or "Flaws", which were identified during its BetaTesting > Period > > Others will disagree because they give Apple a Pass based on its Past > Performance as it pertains to accessibility, which impacts their use of their > software/hardware > > > At 09:57 PM 5/19/2015, you wrote: >> Well said, Alex. Thank you. Terry >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Alex Hall <mailto:[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 11:53 PM >> Subject: Apple Watch Update and Apple's Commitment to Accessibility >> >> Hi list, >> In case you missed it, not only does today's 1.0.1 update to the Apple Watch >> improve several aspects of the device, it addresses three annoying VoiceOver >> bugs. It also, according to some reports, makes some core parts of the UI >> better, fixing accessibility in several apps. Add to that the fact that the >> Watch was already fully accessible; that the Micky Mouse face speaks the >> time in a higher-pitched voice, a throwback to the old talking watches; that >> iOS8.3 fixed nearly every VoiceOver bug in iOS8; that Tim Cook mentioned >> accessibility in a mainstream address; that VoiceOver consistently gets new >> features with each new major OS update to any Apple product; and that not a >> single item in Apple's current lineup lacks visual, learning, hearing, and >> motor accessibility features in some form or another. All I'm saying is >> that, next time an accessibility bug really annoys you, and you're tempted >> to conclude that Apple doesn't value accessibility and is leaving VI or >> other disabled users behind… Just think back to this email, then think of >> all the ridiculously amazing things your phone/Mac/Apple TV/Watch/iPod/iPad >> can do in a fully accessible way. Sure, there are bugs, but there are >> longstanding networking and wifi problems too. Is Apple therefore abandoning >> wifi users? Do they want to push Macbook Air users away with a bug that >> caused startup problems? Do they want to stop the Mac Pro line, because a >> bug in that system caused dual monitors to not work correctly? Apple is far >> from perfect, but I can safely say that their long-term commitment to >> accessibility isn't going anywhere. >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex Hall >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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