Hello Adam

Please let me know if you or anybody else has success in making 
vpopmail+ldap 2.x work. If Vpopmail does not support OpenLDAP 2.x .I've 
no problem using the 1.x version.

Thanx

Sumith

Adam Nealis wrote:

> Hi Gabriel,
> 
>  --- Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
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>> 
>> Hello Adam,
>> 
>> Saturday, September 29, 2001, 11:50:28 PM, you wrote:
>> 
>>> For what I'm trying to do I do need virtual domains and
>>> accounts. I already use qmail + vpopmail in this way, but I'd
>>> like to use LDAP as the back end database for user management,
>>> virtual domains management, etc.
>> 
>>> Is this possible without writing new code at present?
>> 
>> I don't think so. MySQL is in place, though.
> 
> Ah well...
> 
>> I know it is off topic, but I'd really be interested what advantages
>> you (and anyone else) see in running LDAP for email accounts (and the
>> rest of the vhosting stuff, for that matter) compared to saving the
>> stuff in a simple SQL setup. To me, SQL appears to be much easier to
>> setup and maintain, especially as most vhost setups got MySQL up and
>> running anyhow, but OpenLDAP is a beast that won't do what you want
>> without some good amount of work... Comments?
> 
> I think that OpenLDAP 1.x suffers from not insisting on data schemas
> (it runs with schema checking off by default!). Not only that I am
> having trouble getting OpenLDAP to log to syslog 8(.
> 
> This makes it easy to build useless directories. OpenLDAP 2.x (LDAPv3)
> directories must have schemas. This enforces structure as you cannot
> put data in ad hoc.
> 
> IMO a relational database is not best suited for what is essentially
> just an address book. A directory is better suited. LDAP is optimised
> for reads, since the operations in a directory are mainly read. The
> nature of the data are not particularly relational either (witness the
> simplicity of the RDB schema in the SQL-based tools).
> 
> LDAP has built-in replication clustering, something that can be taken
> advantage of with in qmail-ldap.
> 
> The memory footprint of slapd 1.12.11 is <1MB on my FreeBSD box, while
> mysqld weighs in at 25MB.
> 
> I am not criticising RDBs by the way. But IMO they are best suited to
> dealing with relational data. I do like the tool (I forget it's name),
> that stores e-mail in a database. This seems to be a space efficient
> manner to store e-mail that is cc:d to an entire organisation, since
> only one copy of each e-mail need be stored. I wouldn't advocate
> storing actual e-mail data in an LDAP store! However, I would be
> reluctant to run my mail queue from a RDB.
> Having said all that, I have not investigated the loading
> characteristics of OpenLDAP 1 or 2. A poster to the qmail-ldap list
> warned me off OpenLDAP 2, for example, because of instability under
> load.
> 
> I was hoping to run everything under LDAP because I did not want to
> run (and have to maintain) LDAP + some flavour of sqld. And the data
> I am dealing with (user details, aliases, virtual domains and members,
> etc.) are best suited to a directory.
> 
> I have some more thinking to do!
> 
> Adam.
> 
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