I was having a problem with logon failures throughout the day using the latest development version of vpopmail, and for the life of me I couldn't figure it out. The accounts were set up, were visible to vpopmail's utilities, but no dice -- always a logon failure. Anyway, I figured it out: I had put a server name OTHER than "localhost" in the vmysql.h file. When I put "localhost" back in, it worked... I noticed this by telneting in on port 110 and say a MySQL error - though the logs did not reflect it (mind you, I hadn't set the verbose flag at compile time).. FYI. -- Steve --- "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he next comes to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." -- Thomas De Quincey (1785 - 1859)