i recently posted because i was having trouble getting vpop to authenticate and couldn't for the life of me figure where my problem was. fresh installations of the latest software following instructions and reading all the literature i could find didn't seem to help. in the end it turned out to be the user i was starting pop3 with. /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -u 51 -g 50 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd & /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -u 51 -g 55 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup host.domain.com /var/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail /bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir & vpopmail.vchkpw user.group = -u 60 -g 60 i had been starting pop3 using a member in the qmail user pool and didn't realize that vpopmail user is the only one who has access to the password files. all the times i recompiled and re-read could have been averted had i just checked my startup closely. i have heard some debate here and there on this mailing list about whether simple questions should be outright answered or hints/nudges should be given...and i don't know if people just ignored my earlier posting...but i am glad because i learned a lot during this whole ordeal. thanx.