vpopmail w/ mysql enabled takes care of integrating authentication into a db scheme. what about the rest of qmail's config like aliases and forwards and such? I know that qmailadmin edits the .qmail flat files, but is there anything out there that stores the config in a db and generates the flat files needed? Thanks, _________________________________________________________________________ Nick Bellomy eMphasys Technologies,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.emphasys.net 972.774.1946 real-world internet systems