On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:33 AM Yoav Weiss <y...@yoav.ws> wrote:

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> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:10 AM Frank Tang <ft...@chromium.org> wrote:
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>> For m87
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>> Contact emailsft...@chromium.org, s...@chromium.org
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>> Explainer
>> https://github.com/tc39/proposal-intl-segmenter
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>> Specificationhttps://tc39.github.io/proposal-intl-segmenter/
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>> Design docs
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>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xugLpLmgRFnNXK8ztariTAbD2IXueDw1T3VNuuZCz8k/edit#heading=h.xgjl2srtytjt
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>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1X2zBU3bZ4ergVMWfubCsdnHFzeaDgqiTRJVgvNGjQBs/edit#slide=id.p
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>> TAG reviewreviewed by ECMA402 and TC39
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>> SummaryIntl.Segmenter implements methods for finding the location of
>> boundaries in text, including grapheme, line, word and sentence boundary
>> analysis.
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>> Link to “Intent to Prototype” blink-dev discussion
>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/muRQBwyzzPw/m/MXnlnDEdBgAJ
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>> Risks
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>> Interoperability and CompatibilityThe specification is moved to Stage 3
>> in TC39 2020-Jul meeting with support from ECMA402.
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>> *Gecko*: In development (
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1423593)
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> That issue seems stalled...
>
Zibi (ECMA402 members from Mozilla) could you comment about your
understanding about how likely Gecko would support Intl.Segmenter?


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>> *WebKit*: No signal
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>
> Could you ask
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xkHRXnFS8GDqZi7E0SSbR3a7CZsGScdxPUWBsNgo-oo/edit#heading=h.tgzhprxcmw4u>
> for official signals from both?
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Mathias - could you help?
Ross / rkirsl...@gmail.com (TC39 member from Apple) could you comment about
your understanding about how likely Safari would support  Intl.Segmenter?
<rkirsl...@gmail.com>


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>> *Web developers*: No signals
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> Who's asking for this? Why are we implementing? Do we believe it's
> something developers will use?
>

This is really needed to replace the non-standard Intl.v8BreakIterator. We
somehow shipped a non standard one  Intl.v8BreakIterator and ECMA402 and
TC39 really think there is a need to
retire/obsolete/deprecated  Intl.v8BreakIterator but we need a standard one
first ship so we can tell the developer how to adopt the standard one.
According to
https://www.chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/556 currently
0.4% of all chrome page load use Intl.v8BreakIterator. and these are the
first target  we would them to move their code away from
Intl.v8BreakIterator to Intl.Segmenter . Even with just Chrome launch it,
it will be better that they stay using the chrome only Intl.v8BreakIterator
as today.


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>> ErgonomicsEngineer from Apple believe we should not add line break
>> support to the Intl.Segmenter because the developer may abuse the API and
>> perform text layout by themselves instead of depending on CSS. The line
>> break feature then were removed from the specification in the current shape.
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>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes
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>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>> ?Yes https://github.com/tc39/test262/tree/master/test/intl402/Segmenter
>>
>> Tracking bughttps://bugs.chromium.org/p/v8/issues/detail?id=6891
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>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>> https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/6099397733515264
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