On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 6:59 AM Michael Richardson <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca>
wrote:

>
> Peter Gutmann <pgut...@cs.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
>     >> Or, you can write new application level code, but the base embedded
> system,
>     >> which contains TLS as part of the SDK, can not be upgraded without
> a new
>     >> review.
>
>     > That's what I usually run into.  A tweak in the application-level
> code isn't a
>     > big deal, but adding an entire second protocol stack for TLS 1.3
> is.  There
>     > are also situations where you've barely got room for one TLS stack,
> so being
>     > required to have both TLS 1.2 and 1.3 is a non-starter.
>
> So, on the non-constrained system, we need to tell them to do 1.3 (and
> newer)
> so that there is an update path, but also to do 1.2.
>
> Further, the more documents which people wind up not complying to, then it
> becomes increasing to get them to pay any attention to any of the criteria.
>
> And DTLS 1.3 is not ubiquitous.
>

This document already distinguishes DTLS 1.3 from TLS 1.3 for this
precise reason.

-Ekr


> This started with an AD telling us that we need to reflect
> uta-require-tls1.3 in our
> document, but really, we do as good a job as we can.
>
>
>
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>            Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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