On Friday, 30 April 2021 08:46:05 CEST, Martin Thomson wrote:
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021, at 16:25, Valery Smyslov wrote:
The original motivation for 7525bis was to update RFC 7525 in light of TLS 1.3 appearance. However, I believe that recommendations for using ALPN are in scope of this document.

How about a new Section 3.7 "Application-Layer Protocol Negotiation":

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TLS implementations MUST support the Application-Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN) extension [RFC7301]. Correct use of ALPN ensures that clients and servers agree on a negotiated protocol.

Newly defined application protocols that use TLS MUST define an ALPN identifier and mandate the use of ALPN for negotiating the protocol.

An existing application protocol might not have been assigned an ALPN identifier. For other protocols the ALPN identifier might not have been part of the original protocol definition, or use of ALPN might have been defined originally as being optional. In all of these cases, implementations cannot require the use of ALPN. A server implementation MUST fail a connection attempt with a fatal "no_application_protocol" alert if it is configured to use a protocol that has no assigned ALPN identifier and a client offers an "application_layer_protocol_negotiation" extension.
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that reads to me like a recipie for future interoperability issues

sure, if the protocol doesn't have an ALPN ID assigned now, requiring
no ALPN use is ok, but if that protocol gains an ALPN ID, the connections
from a client that knows about this ALPN ID will fail to all of the old servers

that's Bad, as it means that those protocols can't ever get an ALPN ID assigned
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Regards,
Hubert Kario
Senior Quality Engineer, QE BaseOS Security team
Web: www.cz.redhat.com
Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkyňova 115, 612 00  Brno, Czech Republic

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