>Please send your agenda requests for Dallas to the list as soon as possible!
>
>       Cheers Leif

To help the ball rolling, here is the conclusion from Honolulu:

Brief summary of the UTA WG meeting @IETF 91, Honolulu
Tuesday, Nov 11, 2014

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-uta-tls-bcp/
The new version incorporating all comments from the LC is available as -07. 
Short one week last call starts from today. All are encouraged to double check 
that their concerns and feedback have been addressed.
  
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-newman-email-deep/
Adopted and will be resubmitted as a new WG ID. Rename "assurance" to 
"confidentiality". Ross and Sean will review the pinning mechanism. Keep the 
email certificates draft separate for now. Other open issues to be further 
investigated and discussed on the list.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-martin-authentication-results-tls/
Perceived as a useful tool including for the inter-domain use cases.  Expressed 
concerns are related to privacy and insufficient semantics of the recorded 
authentication details. The author will continue working on the individual 
draft. The author, Chris Newman, with other volunteers will write an 
(additional) draft focusing on the broader meaning/semantics of the 
inter-domain authentication.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-popov-token-binding/ and
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-balfanz-https-token-binding/
Perceived as a very much needed approach. Defines a complicated system with 
many moving parts. HTTP is not a single application to benefit from it. Another 
would be Email with SAML. Strong sense that a dedicated new WG (preferably in 
the Security Area) needs to be established to make this infrastructural work 
finally happen. This is for the ADs to address.
 
"TLS Fallback Dance"
Daniel Kahn Gillmor with a group of volunteers (~5) will write an initial draft 
documenting known fallback use cases and the existing techniques to deal with 
them. Tentative goals include sharing common knowledge and educating the 
community about the pitfalls of this approach. 

Leif & Orit.

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