You can test the hypothesis using a heat gun. 

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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 1:13 AM, Francois Quitin <fqui...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> 
> We use 30cm high quality sma cables, so I'm a bit surprised that this would 
> be thermal noise...
> 
> n 17.10.2018 05:23, Marcus D. Leech wrote:
>>> On 10/16/2018 04:49 PM, Francois Quitin wrote:
>>> Units are radians. There is some noise because the post processing is a bit 
>>> crummy, but we were more concerned about the drift.
>> How long is the cable that is being used to link the two X310 REF ports?
>> Looks like the drift is about 0.3 radian, and it looks like a thermal
>> effect to me, but that would likely not be the case for a short cable.
>>> n 16.10.2018 22:46, Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users wrote:
>>>>> On 10/16/2018 04:39 PM, Francois Quitin via USRP-users wrote:
>>>>> Oops, I forgot to explain the figures. We're sending a pilot tone with a 
>>>>> different usrp, and split it over the 4 channels using a 4-port RF 
>>>>> SPLITTER. The graph shows the phase of the received signals as a function 
>>>>> of time (1 point every ten seconds)
>>>>> Francois
>>>> OK, but what are the phase units?  Degrees?  Radians?
>>>>> 16.10.2018 18:13, Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/16/2018 07:44 AM, Francois Quitin via USRP-users wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> We encountered a small problem when we try to build a 4-element MIMO
>>>>>>> array with two X310 (equipped with UBX daughterboards). We are
>>>>>>> working on UHD-3.10.3:
>>>>>>> -          When we use an octoclock to provide the 10 MHz
>>>>>>> Ref and the PPS to both X310, the phase of each receiving front-end
>>>>>>> stays nicely constant (see octoclock.png). The Ref Source and Time
>>>>>>> Source are set to “external” in GNU Radio (the points represent
>>>>>>> a measurement taken every ten seconds)
>>>>>>> -          When we use the 10 MHz Ref Out and PPS Out from
>>>>>>> one X310 and feed it to the Ref In and PPS In of the other X310, we
>>>>>>> observe a drift in the phases of the channels from the second X310.
>>>>>>> This is shown in the graph daisyChain.png, where we take one point
>>>>>>> every ten seconds. We configured GNU Radio to set the Ref Source and
>>>>>>> Time source of the first USRP to “default”, the ones of the
>>>>>>> second USRP to “external”.
>>>>>>> This drift is something more severe, sometimes less, but it’s
>>>>>>> always present. Any idea why we observe this?
>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>> François
>>>>>> What is the Y-axis scale on these plots?
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> Brussels School of Engineering
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